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I really do not appreciate the rude comments. For a site where I was expecting mature individuals, this is sure not it.
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SBennett wrote:samanthabanks wrote:marymikhail wrote:Yes, I am. I believe in a higher power which is Jesus Christ ! He truly exists, no need for scientific research! Sorry... excuse me? No need for scientific research..... how do you know he exists then? Because science is the devil!! Hum... I find this rather disappointing. Blind belief is something that causes a lot of harm to society (various apt examples throughout this thread), but nothing I can say will change anyone's mind. Let us, instead, consider why religion is such a debated topic...
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Somewhere in between agnostic theist and agnostic atheist.
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clare2141995 wrote:I really do not appreciate the rude comments. For a site where I was expecting mature individuals, this is sure not it. Yeah well I'm disappointed by the numbers of people who believe in something so ridiculous. For a site where I was expecting intelligent individuals, this is sure not it. McGill - Arts
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I would like to think i am. But really i'm not. =/ (hopefully it shouldnt affect my afterlife too much:p) Co-op Management University of Toronto Class of 2016
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Im Muslim :) i guess im religious. I do the requirments for my faith and im a good person. Religion for me i guess is my identity and plays a big role in my everyday life, from prayer to simply just choosing to be a good person and do the right thing. If a person asks me to descibe who i am, i think the first two things ill state is my religion then nationality. So ya i think im religious :p
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I'm Catholic and I never know how to answer this question. My faith is important to me, but I can't say that makes me a very good Catholic. I believe in all the Catholic church's teachings, but I wish I were more dedicated, a better person who loved God and others more. I wish I could say I was religious, but I'm not sure if that'd be very true. And yes, religion to me is synonymous with having a relationship with God... I don't understand why religion has to be "bad word", even in Christian circles.
I have thought a lot about religion from a philosophical perspective- I like playing mind games. Belief doesn't have to be blind. To me, religion is about seeking what is true, not just believing what I personally want to be true or what I am told. No, I don't think we can prove God's existence, but I feel like there's is a lot of evidence for his existence, both from personal experience and logical thinking.
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salimush wrote: im a good person. That is entirely subjective. McGill - Arts
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In the words of Mahatma Gandhi, "I am a Muslim, and a Hindu, and a Christian, and a Jew, and so are all of you"
I respect all religions out there, but at the end of the day, all religions preach love. :)
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No University of Waterloo '17 Software Engineering
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OscarUK wrote:Siwalge wrote:OscarUK wrote:Surely by high school age people are a bit old to have imaginary friends? Alright, let's try and keep the conversation polite. No need to bash the beliefs of others. On the contrary, I am more than entitled to express my opinions. If you would prefer me to put them in less sarcastic and plainer terms then I am more than happy to oblige... Religion in every form is misguided, dangerous and fundamentally wrong and anyone who "believes" is living in a dream world. If someone chooses to "believe" and keep that to themselves then so be it, but unfortunately a vast amount of the world's problems today can be traced back to people's "beliefs" the world would be an infinitely better place without it. As I say these are my opinions, take it or leave it... couldn't care less. im sorry but ' a vast amount of the world's problems' IS NOT caused by religion.. it is caused by mankinds greed for power and control. you cant say that relegion is the cause of the world's problems just because YOU dont believe in God. i never understood how people dont believe in God -no offense- , how could you not believe that there is no creator? how could a ball move without having someone having to kick it first? how did the world start then? a group of people jst popped out of no where? - and i know that many atheists at some point in their life will think about God. when they are in a deep problem they will look up and say 'Oh God please help me!' and God will always answer their call
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IkranArtan wrote:i never understood how people dont believe in God -no offense- , how could you not believe that there is no creator? how could a ball move without having someone having to kick it first? how did the world start then? a group of people jst popped out of no where?] You should read The Blind Watchmaker by Richard Dawkins. I have to read it for one of my courses and it's pretty eye-opening. I was raised as a Christian and believed in Creationism but the more I learned about genetics and the theory of evolution it became harder not to believe it along with Darwin's theories.
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IkranArtan wrote: im sorry but ' a vast amount of the world's problems' IS NOT caused by religion.. it is caused by mankinds greed for power and control. you cant say that relegion is the cause of the world's problems just because YOU dont believe in God. i never understood how people dont believe in God -no offense- , how could you not believe that there is no creator? how could a ball move without having someone having to kick it first? how did the world start then? a group of people jst popped out of no where?
- and i know that many atheists at some point in their life will think about God. when they are in a deep problem they will look up and say 'Oh God please help me!' and God will always answer their call
You are an idiot. I don't know what you're doning on this forum, this is for intelligent people who want to go to university, not children who have never picked up a physics book. "how could a ball move without having someone having to kick it first?" HAHAHAHAHA literally one of the funniest arguments for the existence of an omniscient power I have ever heard. Thanks for giving me a good laugh this morning. IkranArtan wrote: - and i know that many atheists at some point in their life will think about God. when they are in a deep problem they will look up and say 'Oh God please help me!' and God will always answer their call
Yes indeed, those starving children around the world, those victims of natural disaster, those suffering from terminal illness', those who are persecuted and tortured because of what GOD MADE THEM... God answers their call doesn't he, yeah, he's just great. McGill - Arts
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I don't think an atheist needs to explain his or her lack of religious beliefs any more than IkranArtan needs to explain his or her lack of belief in unicorns. BMSc Honours Specialization in Medical Science, Minor in Psychology, UWO '09 Bachelor of Pharmacy, University of Alberta '13 - Drop out as of '11 University Certificate in Finance, Athabasca University '12 Petroleum Engineering Technology diploma, NAIT '13
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IkranArtan, your argument is very weak. Take OscarUK's advice and read some more books. People don't just "pop out of nowhere".
I grew up in a non-religious household where my parents never talked about religion. When I was little, I asked them if there was a God and a heaven, and my dad says, "Maybe". Logically, as I learned more, I eventually believed in the side with more evidence. What I love about being an atheist is that I don't need to conform to any kind of expectations and that there's always reason in what I believe, not because I want to believe.
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CrèmeGlacée wrote:I think IkranArtan's point about kicking a ball might be referring to Aristotle's arguments about the unmoved first mover and uncaused first cause... maybe? Those arguments are certainly not stupid or weak. They still don't prove God's existence, but I really don't think logic or science is really able to actually prove or disprove God's existence. Just like for evolution, there is only evidence.
That's why I'm agnostic. The biggest problem that I have with religion isn't with the existence of "this" or the cause of "that", but rather the people who blindly misinterpret scriptures and readings and use them to justify their hate and bigotry. When I realized that I was gay a few years ago I had a really hard time negotiating my faith and my sexuality. It bothered me whenever I went to church because I knew that all of these people there who seemed so nice and caring could in an instant change their opinion about me if they were to find out that I was gay. I know not everyone who goes to church is like that, but I just didn't feel comfortable being around people who could potentially act that way, so I stopped going. I still have yet to come out to my parents because they're pretty religious and I don't know how they would take it. Also, I know LGBT rights and freedoms have already been well established in Canada and that's great, but I go to school in the States and that isn't the case here yet. Politics often comes up during dinner conversations and whatnot so it helps to be aware of certain issues, especially with the upcoming election in November.
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CrèmeGlacée wrote:uncharted1111 wrote:IkranArtan wrote:i never understood how people dont believe in God -no offense- , how could you not believe that there is no creator? how could a ball move without having someone having to kick it first? how did the world start then? a group of people jst popped out of no where?] You should read The Blind Watchmaker by Richard Dawkins. I have to read it for one of my courses and it's pretty eye-opening. I was raised as a Christian and believed in Creationism but the more I learned about genetics and the theory of evolution it became harder not to believe it along with Darwin's theories. As a Christian, I don't have a problem with evolution, but I respect those who believe otherwise. The one thing I don't get is when pseudoscience is used to justify creationism. That said, the more I study biology the more I am convinced God exists. I think IkranArtan's point about kicking a ball might be referring to Aristotle's arguments about the unmoved first mover and uncaused first cause... maybe? Those arguments are certainly not stupid or weak. They still don't prove God's existence, but I really don't think logic or science is really able to actually prove or disprove God's existence. Just like for evolution, there is only evidence. If you believe that IkranArtan's argument is not weak, then you must think it shows evidence for the existence of God. Really, comparing the universe to a ball? That's like comparing suns to ice cream. And questioning the creation of the world and humans? God is NOT the answer to everything that we cannot figure out a perfect answer to. You are right, there is no way to prove God's existence, there is only evidence. However, the evidence supporting it are magnitudes weaker than the evidence against it.
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