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Does anybody know if they look at mid term marks even though u have ur top 6 alrdy with the pre reqs? McMaster Health Sciences-ACCEPTED!
McMaster Life Sciences-accepted
Western Biomed-accepted
Queen's Science-accepted
U of T Life Sciences-accepted
Waterloo Life Science-accepted
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LJustin wrote:KingSRK wrote:I know this it the Health Sci thread, but I just got accepted to Life Sci at McMaster  . Anyone else apply to Life Sci as a back up? Check your emails. I applied .. didn't get anything. What was your avg if you don't mind me asking? As of the date of acceptance, I had four classes finished, with an average of 92% (English bringing me down bah!) Applied to:
Brock University - Health Science [Accepted]
McGill - Life Science [Accepted]
McMaster - Life Science [Accepted]
McMaster - Health Science [Rejected]
Queens - Science [Accepted]
Waterloo - Life Science [Accepted]
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fxoqxc wrote:KingSRK wrote:LJustin wrote:KingSRK wrote:I know this it the Health Sci thread, but I just got accepted to Life Sci at McMaster . Anyone else apply to Life Sci as a back up? Check your emails. I applied .. didn't get anything. What was your avg if you don't mind me asking? As of the date of acceptance, I had four classes finished, with an average of 92% (English bringing me down bah!) you got accepted after your first semester marks were sent right? i have a bit higher average than you and i didn't get accepted O.O maybe it's because of my grade 11 marks.. but i thought they don't look at those after semester 1 marks are sent.. lol Yep, I got accepted after first semester marks were sent in. I'm not sure why you didn't get accepted, maybe just bad luck? I'm almost certain they don't look at grade 11 marks after first semester marks are sent in. Especially considering the fact that my grade 11 average was absolutely horrible due to extenuating circumstances. Regardless, I'm sure you'll get an acceptance soon. Applied to:
Brock University - Health Science [Accepted]
McGill - Life Science [Accepted]
McMaster - Life Science [Accepted]
McMaster - Health Science [Rejected]
Queens - Science [Accepted]
Waterloo - Life Science [Accepted]
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fxoqxc wrote:KingSRK wrote:LJustin wrote:KingSRK wrote:I know this it the Health Sci thread, but I just got accepted to Life Sci at McMaster . Anyone else apply to Life Sci as a back up? Check your emails. I applied .. didn't get anything. What was your avg if you don't mind me asking? As of the date of acceptance, I had four classes finished, with an average of 92% (English bringing me down bah!) you got accepted after your first semester marks were sent right? i have a bit higher average than you and i didn't get accepted O.O maybe it's because of my grade 11 marks.. but i thought they don't look at those after semester 1 marks are sent.. lol Yeah .. it's really strange. A few of my friends with higher avgs didn't get in, but a few friends with lower avgs did ...
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Hey guys, I would like to bring your attention to the latest Mcmaster CUDO statistics, from last year. The entrance averages for health science and artsci are simply ridiculous. http://www.mcmaster.ca/a...20102011/20102011B.html
Scroll down to the other degrees, which include only health science and artsci. Percent who received an entering average of 95%+ 68.6% Percent who received an entering average between 90% and 94% 31.4% Overall average 95.5% Behold the monstrosity. Really? 95.5% average entrance grade? No program in Canada is justified to have it that high. Frankly, after seeing that, I'm starting to doubt the "above 90% and supp app is whats most important" notion. Oh, and I'm certain the art sci entrance averages are dragging down that 95.5%. I'm wiling to bet that the entrance average for health sci alone is ~96-97%. University of Western Ontario
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That's so strange! I think maybe it varies because at our school, quite a few students with higher averages (90+) were accepted while others with 87-90 and such weren't. And holy... Those averages are crazy. My confidence in my sup app is down the drain...   "Do you want to be safe and good, or do you want to take a chance and be great?"
~ Shoot for the moon; it's always worth the shot
Applied to:
UofT LifeSci
UtM LifeSci
MAC LifeSci ♥
MAC HealthSci
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Victorinox wrote:
Behold the monstrosity. Really? 95.5% average entrance grade? No program in Canada is justified to have it that high. Frankly, after seeing that, I'm starting to doubt the "above 90% and supp app is whats most important" notion.
Oh, and I'm certain the art sci entrance averages are dragging down that 95.5%. I'm wiling to bet that the entrance average for health sci alone is ~96-97%.
Not at all. I know plenty of people who didn't have 95+. Health sci doesn't have any interest in people who are purely academic with ~98% averages. It's all about the application and your fit for the program. The program depends on people with empathy who want to work together, it's in their best interest to focus on the supp app. Beyond 90 doesn't even matter anyhow. Grades can fluctuate depending on school, teacher and circumstance. What is important is that everyone 90+ has demonstrated the intellect and work ethic required to excel. Having a 95+ going into university doesn't give you any distinct advantage over the 90+s. McMaster 2015
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fxoqxc wrote:andrewk512 wrote:Victorinox wrote:
Behold the monstrosity. Really? 95.5% average entrance grade? No program in Canada is justified to have it that high. Frankly, after seeing that, I'm starting to doubt the "above 90% and supp app is whats most important" notion.
Oh, and I'm certain the art sci entrance averages are dragging down that 95.5%. I'm wiling to bet that the entrance average for health sci alone is ~96-97%.
Having a 95+ going into university doesn't give you any distinct advantage over the 90+s. not necessarily, a friend with a 97 average knows a lot more than me than me sitting with a 92/3 average. in math, though, a 95 from a 100 doesn't really matter, it's just a matter of stupid mistakes. but in anything else like chemistry and biology i think it's an important difference. their understanding is that much deeper. First year health sci here, and I agree with what andrewk has said. I'm just going to clear up some misconceptions about health science: 1. Yes, that is pretty much the entrance average of health science students (well at least for my year anyway, or so I've heard). But that is not a deciding factor whether you get in or not. I know plenty of health scis both in my year, and upper years that came in with an average closer to 90. As long as you're past that 90 cut off, it's all fair game. The person reading your supp app does not care about your 99 average. Sure, newspapers like to publicize it, and that's great, but that does not guarantee you a spot in this program. 2. Seeing a lot of the people here who are worried about "what to do when I don't get in" troubles me. I understand everyone here wants to get into this program - some more than others, but understand this: Getting into health science is pretty much a lottery. That's it. There really isn't a "if you have a 99 average you get in" or "you have 1085085 volunteer hours, you get in" selection. Don't get down if you don't get in, nor should you. If you have anymore qs feel free to post here, or PM me :)
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how could you think someone with a 90 average vs someone with a 100 average from the same school possess the same level of intellect? [/quote]
First year hsci here :D
Because every school grades differently and every teacher grades with bias :) I'm sure even within your own school there will be teachers that people consider an easier marker than others right? Just think of that multiplied across every school in Ontario and then across schools in different provinces :) Also, I don't really think someone's intellect is solely measured by their average.
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andrewk512 wrote:Victorinox wrote:
Behold the monstrosity. Really? 95.5% average entrance grade? No program in Canada is justified to have it that high. Frankly, after seeing that, I'm starting to doubt the "above 90% and supp app is whats most important" notion.
Oh, and I'm certain the art sci entrance averages are dragging down that 95.5%. I'm wiling to bet that the entrance average for health sci alone is ~96-97%.
Not at all. I know plenty of people who didn't have 95+. Health sci doesn't have any interest in people who are purely academic with ~98% averages. It's all about the application and your fit for the program. The program depends on people with empathy who want to work together, it's in their best interest to focus on the supp app. Beyond 90 doesn't even matter anyhow. Grades can fluctuate depending on school, teacher and circumstance. What is important is that everyone 90+ has demonstrated the intellect and work ethic required to excel. Having a 95+ going into university doesn't give you any distinct advantage over the 90+s. couldn't have said it better myself. I went to the President's Scholarship awards ceremony that was awarded to people who had 95+ final averages, and the pamphlet listed all the hscis in our year that got the award, and three quarters of the ~200 people got it. I am pretty sure the entrance average was higher than 95.5 ... (omg, I'm below average cuz my average was right on 95.5) I also think that a 90 average and a 100 average don't matter because the teachers are so different. Numbers don't mean much after a certain point. McMaster Bachelor of Health Sciences 2015
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fxoqxc wrote:[quote=andrewk512]
not necessarily, a friend with a 97 average knows a lot more than me than me sitting with a 92/3 average.
in math, though, a 95 from a 100 doesn't really matter, it's just a matter of stupid mistakes. but in anything else like chemistry and biology i think it's an important difference. their understanding is that much deeper. You'll find in the purely science based courses that your mark is just proportional to effort put in. I'm getting higher marks in science than I did in high school, and I came here without a lot of the pre-assumed knowledge everyone else has. Never done lewis diagrams, gas law equations, as well as anything involving organic chemistry. Again, hard work can differentiate anything. If you already have a 90+ then you've demonstrated the intellect required to succeed. After that it is a matter of not making stupid mistakes, and knowing the little details and refined applications. And that's something you can pick up along the way in university if you don't have it in highschool. McMaster 2015
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Hey guys, are there any opportunities abroad at mac health sci/ mac in general? I've heard there's a program where you can travel to underprivileged countries and help doctors for a summer? Can anyone elaborate on this? ALSO, does anyone know how large/ prestigious the mac debating union is? McGill | Biological, Biomedical and Life Sciences
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In regards to the entrance averages, it sort of makes sense. I know a lot of friends who opt out of health sci because they didn't think they would make the cut of average, but ended up getting around 91/92 averages, so that may account for some of the difference. Plus, if marks were used for tie breaking, the higher mark wins, so that would account for some of the difference as well. McMaster Health Sciences-ACCEPTED!
McMaster Life Sciences-accepted
Western Biomed-accepted
Queen's Science-accepted
U of T Life Sciences-accepted
Waterloo Life Science-accepted
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lesson1 wrote:Hey guys, are there any opportunities abroad at mac health sci/ mac in general? I've heard there's a program where you can travel to underprivileged countries and help doctors for a summer? Can anyone elaborate on this?
http://fhs.mcmaster.ca/b...obalhealth_courses.html
Also some clubs where you can travel abroad to help underprivileged people. I don't know much about them. McMaster 2015
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lesson1 wrote:Hey guys, are there any opportunities abroad at mac health sci/ mac in general? I've heard there's a program where you can travel to underprivileged countries and help doctors for a summer? Can anyone elaborate on this?
ALSO, does anyone know how large/ prestigious the mac debating union is? If you specialize in global health (within the BHSc program), you spend 1st semester of 3rd year in a third world country, and it counts as a 15 unit course. 20-30 students are accepted into the global health specialization and you have to apply to it at the end of 1st year. It's not during the summer though, I'm not sure if you're thinking of a volunteer program such as VIDA. I don't know anything about debate at Mac, sorry. McMaster Bachelor of Health Sciences 2011
U of Guelph-OVC Doctor of Veterinary Medicine 2015
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I 'see' Out of applicants from last year and so on receive admission offers during March, but the admission officer in Mcmaster denies that. She says all receive offers/rejections during May.
What is true?
And, as you know we have sent 1st term marks, but among those grades, are only required courses considered to calculate average?
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JBoy wrote:I 'see' Out of applicants from last year and so on receive admission offers during March, but the admission officer in Mcmaster denies that. She says all receive offers/rejections during May.
What is true?
And, as you know we have sent 1st term marks, but among those grades, are only required courses considered to calculate average? Out of province applicants receive offers in March (Andrew would be better suited to confirm this), but that was how it was like last year. The required courses + your other highest marks make up the top 6 and become your average.
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Quote:Out of province applicants receive offers in March (Andrew would be better suited to confirm this), but that was how it was like last year. Myself and others got admission offers in March (3rd-4th week). I believe inthemaking has said this was the same for years before mine as well. It is possible the admissions officer was not aware of the early offers sent out to OOPs. McMaster 2015
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got bored and decided to check this place out.. good to see its the exact same how i remembered it 4 years ago...
was gunna see if you guys had any questions, but it seems other health sci's are here already and got it covered ;P
will be reading some of your apps this year, ready to be amazed
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I was wondering what happens if your mark dropped below 90 after midterms?? I have no bird courses this year so I'm kinda starting to get worried! So they reject you without looking at the app? Applied to:
Mcmaster- Honours Health Science I rejected
Mcmaster- LIfe Sciences I ACCEPTED!
Queens- Science ACCEPTED!
UTSG - Life Sciences [Human Biology- Neuroscience] ACCEPTED!
UTM - Life Science [Biology for Health Science] ACCEPTED!
QUEEN'S SCIENCE 2016
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