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Queen's or U of T? Options
laurarner
#1 Posted : Monday, February 27, 2012 9:17:51 AM
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I got into Queen's, Waterloo and Laurier. I'm still waiting on U of T, I do expect an acceptance. :P

Where should I go? I love Toronto and I love the U of T campus. But my family wants me to go to Queen's.

Downsides, upsides?


My average last year was in the high 80s, right about now it's around 84%.
1st: University of Toronto - Accepted
2nd: University of Waterloo, Honours Arts - Accepted
3rd: Queen's University, Honours Arts - Accepted
4th: Laurier (late application) - Accepted
MattUK
#2 Posted : Monday, February 27, 2012 2:32:20 PM
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You make it sound like there's a choice!
I'm not sure what you want to do, but U of T is probably the better school. thumright
University of Toronto
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eddyhe
#3 Posted : Monday, February 27, 2012 2:58:41 PM
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my average is also around 84%. Toronto is the bestbom
laurarner
#4 Posted : Monday, February 27, 2012 4:27:37 PM
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MattUK wrote:
You make it sound like there's a choice!
I'm not sure what you want to do, but U of T is probably the better school. thumright



Yeah. I talked to my guidance councilor today, and she said U of T is the better choice... Kingston doesn't do it for me at all. Maybe I'll do grad school there.
1st: University of Toronto - Accepted
2nd: University of Waterloo, Honours Arts - Accepted
3rd: Queen's University, Honours Arts - Accepted
4th: Laurier (late application) - Accepted
6x7
#5 Posted : Monday, February 27, 2012 7:26:11 PM
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U of T, you kidding me for even asking that question?

Lol, just kidding- but no, really, choose U of T.

Check the programs, the alumni, the Nobel Prize winning professors, amazing research programs, and extra-curriculars, HART HOUSE! U of T has so much to offer, even a list of language courses (They event each Finnish, 15 cases and all!). Plus, Toronto has so much to offer as a city- more internships and opporunity for jobs etc. :)

The college system also makes it more prestigious, if that's what your are heading for.

Also, it's one the top internationally ranked universities in Canada (tying with McGill for top in Canada).
ktel
#6 Posted : Monday, February 27, 2012 7:42:50 PM
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^ Half of what you listed should really only matter to grad students.
cherrypie725
#7 Posted : Monday, February 27, 2012 8:01:21 PM
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If your only reason for wanting to go to Queen's is that your parents want you to... then don't go to Queen's.
Queen's Arts '16

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6x7
#8 Posted : Monday, February 27, 2012 8:15:41 PM
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ktel wrote:
^ Half of what you listed should really only matter to grad students.


Ah, you're right. I'm just trying to list as much as I can though! Who knows if the OP wants to do grad school or not? Either way, a diploma is not enough these days. Internships, and EC's matter just as much. U of T is great for networking, as well as having diverse programs as well <- That's what I am trying to say. :)
laurarner
#9 Posted : Monday, February 27, 2012 8:25:07 PM
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I want to double major in Fine Arts and something along the lines of Equality and Diversity. I'm not sure Queen's has those.

I'm just saying, I keep being attacked by Kingston-pushers.
1st: University of Toronto - Accepted
2nd: University of Waterloo, Honours Arts - Accepted
3rd: Queen's University, Honours Arts - Accepted
4th: Laurier (late application) - Accepted
ktel
#10 Posted : Monday, February 27, 2012 8:54:02 PM
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6x7 wrote:
ktel wrote:
^ Half of what you listed should really only matter to grad students.


Ah, you're right. I'm just trying to list as much as I can though! Who knows if the OP wants to do grad school or not? Either way, a diploma is not enough these days. Internships, and EC's matter just as much. U of T is great for networking, as well as having diverse programs as well <- That's what I am trying to say. :)


A much better way to put it. Obviously I love U of T, am going there now for grad school, but thinks like prestige, endowment size, research funding, famous professors etc. aren't going to affect the average undergrad too much.
6x7
#11 Posted : Monday, February 27, 2012 8:58:15 PM
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ktel wrote:

A much better way to put it. Obviously I love U of T, am going there now for grad school, but thinks like prestige, endowment size, research funding, famous professors etc. aren't going to affect the average undergrad too much.


That's true - and I think I got ahead of myself there ahahaha!
AgriGen
#12 Posted : Tuesday, February 28, 2012 8:14:48 AM
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Queens will be much funner.

Uoft will have better academics.

Great schools either way :)
RhiannaJK
#13 Posted : Tuesday, February 28, 2012 9:27:38 PM
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I've been accepted to U of T and plan on going next year; I absolutely love Toronto and the U of T campus! Queen's has a beautiful campus as well, but you're going to get a much more interesting experience in Toronto than you will at Kingston in terms of city life. Kingston is a very nice place (I've lived there my whole life), but I wouldn't say it's fantastic enough to be one of your main reasons for going to Queen's. U of T is superior in terms of academics so that, in combination with the fact that you seem to like its location and campus better, should give you your answer. ;)

Definitely don't go to Queen's just because your parents want you to! They say school you go to for undergrad doesn't matter much anyway, so you might as well go to the one you personally will like better.
Omok
#14 Posted : Wednesday, February 29, 2012 11:40:06 PM
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laurarner wrote:
I want to double major in Fine Arts and something along the lines of Equality and Diversity. I'm not sure Queen's has those.

I'm just saying, I keep being attacked by Kingston-pushers.


Kingston's, alright. I'm a toronto native, and it was really disappointing to me (at first) to be thrown to the middle of no where....=_=; (but once you get use to it, it's quite homey). We have all the amenities you would ever want/need, with less of a variety. But it's still, meh, you know, just, beautiful kingston. ;)

On the topic though:

If you want fine arts; don't come to Queen's.

Why?

Our department was canceled this year. =_=; haha. There's no longer any fine arts program at queen's university. woot. :l

;)

one last dorky remark to boost my Ego:

Queen's is harder to get in than UT, and by flawed logistics, it means Queen's is better. Kaythxbye. :D
Queen's Con-current Education. =)
icey
#15 Posted : Saturday, March 03, 2012 12:12:15 AM
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laurarner wrote:
I got into Queen's, Waterloo and Laurier. I'm still waiting on U of T, I do expect an acceptance. :P

Where should I go? I love Toronto and I love the U of T campus. But my family wants me to go to Queen's.

Downsides, upsides?

My average last year was in the high 80s, right about now it's around 84%.


The UofT campus was a huge factor in my decision as well cheers (I'm a 4th year student majoring in Physics and English). Learning environment is very important, and so is the city you're going to be living in, in my opinion. You'll be just next to a whole host of restaurants and shops and bars and so on... :D. While both Universities are great, from what I'm hearing in your post, it sounds to me that you really want to go to UofT. I really think you should follow your heart - you are going to be the one doing the degree, after all, not your family :).

You mentioned that you were interested in double majoring; the great thing about UofT is that it's really flexible and you'll be able to tailor your program to take the courses you want to, as long as you satisfy all the requirements by the time you graduate. You also mentioned you were interested in studying something along the lines of Equality and Diversity. UofT has a lot of great, interdisciplinary programs focusing on equality and diversity! For instance, there's Equity Studies (which includes courses focusing on Disability Studies if you're interested in that, but also global food equity and social advocacy), offered through New College. There's also Sexual Diversity Studies, a whole host of cultural studies (East Asian studies, African Studies, Slavic Studies, and what have you), ... I took a sexual diversity studies course and really enjoyed it :).

Unfortunately, since I don't go to queen's, I can't give you an opinion on that!
SKHL
#16 Posted : Saturday, March 03, 2012 8:56:16 PM
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laurarner wrote:
I got into Queen's, Waterloo and Laurier. I'm still waiting on U of T, I do expect an acceptance. :P

Where should I go? I love Toronto and I love the U of T campus. But my family wants me to go to Queen's.

Downsides, upsides?


My average last year was in the high 80s, right about now it's around 84%.


Echoing many of the comments here, I don't think anyone can properly compare Queen's and U of T unless they've spent a part of their undergraduate education in both institutions. Speaking from my experience at U of T, I have absolutely loved it. Toronto is an amazing city, I'm very happy to have moved here from across the country, the U of T campus is amazing and very integrated in the city, while also having a distinct campus feel.

Research is more graduate-focused, but that being said there are a multitude of opportunities for undergraduates to get involved in research at U of T. And star professors do teach at the undergraduate level here - I have had some great professors teach my classes, and hope to encounter many more in upper year courses.

And as others have said, it's probably not the best idea to go to a school simply because your family wants you to go there. You'll enjoy a place best when it's the one you want to go to!

Which college did you apply to?
University of Toronto (Trinity College) | Loran
UofTStudent
#17 Posted : Sunday, March 04, 2012 8:56:33 PM
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I had a similar experience in grade 12 when trying to decide where I would go to university. A number of my aunts and uncles went to Queen's and were on me constantly about picking it because it was the best. While I liked Queen's and I was offered a pretty big scholarship to go there, and I had all these people telling me I should go because of their amazing experiences, I still couldn't seem to shake the feeling that it wasn't the right place for me. It was the first university I visited and I loved it when I toured it, so always thought that I would end up there, but when I visited U of T and did a tour at the college of my choice, I knew that U of T was where I was meant to be. My aunts and uncles loved Queen's because it was right for them, but the U of T was right for me for a number of reasons. Personally, I would suggest you go on tours at both of your choices if you can to determine how you feel at each campus. For me, being in an amazing city with so many cultural experiences available to me outside of the beautiful U of T campus where I could see myself living and going to class was what made it right for me. Whichever choice you make, I would suggest that it might be helpful to determine what your criteria are for what you would deem a good university experience. I wanted a big city environment that would enrich my academic experience, but there are many other factors that can be appealing to different people; the choice is yours, that's what's so great! Best of luck!
kathleenUofT
#18 Posted : Sunday, March 04, 2012 10:32:26 PM
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laurarner wrote:
I got into Queen's, Waterloo and Laurier. I'm still waiting on U of T, I do expect an acceptance. :P

Where should I go? I love Toronto and I love the U of T campus. But my family wants me to go to Queen's.

Downsides, upsides?


My average last year was in the high 80s, right about now it's around 84%.



The University of Toronto is a great school! I am in my third year at UofT St. George campus and I love it here! Does your family have specific reasons for wanting you to go to Queens? If you feel strongly about going to the University of Toronto (and I’m glad you do!!) You can counter their argument in saying that the quality of education at UofT is unparalleled by any other in Ontario. The professors who teach you are the leaders of their academic fields and you will have access to numerous research and leadership opportunities making you a more competitive candidate when entering the work force. In addition, I feel like the social scene is far more diverse at UofT than at queens. Because the University of Toronto is located in the downtown core you are not limited to JUST bars and residence life. Being downtown allows you access to all the unique things the city has to offer in addition to residence parties and bars – so really, you are getting the best of both worlds. You can expect to hear from the university of Toronto in April and May so hang in there!
Good luck! Hope to see you next year.
laurarner
#19 Posted : Saturday, March 17, 2012 3:37:45 PM
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SKHL wrote:
laurarner wrote:
I got into Queen's, Waterloo and Laurier. I'm still waiting on U of T, I do expect an acceptance. :P

Where should I go? I love Toronto and I love the U of T campus. But my family wants me to go to Queen's.

Downsides, upsides?


My average last year was in the high 80s, right about now it's around 84%.




And as others have said, it's probably not the best idea to go to a school simply because your family wants you to go there. You'll enjoy a place best when it's the one you want to go to!

Which college did you apply to?



I applied for New as my first and University as my second.
1st: University of Toronto - Accepted
2nd: University of Waterloo, Honours Arts - Accepted
3rd: Queen's University, Honours Arts - Accepted
4th: Laurier (late application) - Accepted
ariadne89
#20 Posted : Saturday, March 17, 2012 10:33:59 PM
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Definitely pick UofT. Queen's doesn't have the programs you want. As Omok said, our fine arts program has been cancelled entirely and it doesn't look like they will be reinstating it.
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