Is there anything you or others wanted to ask about the program? I can help answer any as a current student (not in that specific program of course, it is a new program). I strongly suggest people take a look at the course calender for 2012/2013 to look at the courses you'll be taking for the i.b. stream versus the other streams.

1. I am very satisfied with my choice of UTSC. For the most part, the professors are very friendly, down to earth and approachable and are very knowledgeable at their respective subjects. Don't worry to much about your GPA and how the "bell curve" will affect it, for the most part, "bell curving" this year only improved students' marks. I'm not a member in too many clubs, but I actively participate in the club I belong to, and it's a great experience. I also have my own little spots on campus that are nice and quiet, where I can just sit back and relax with a few friends during lectures.

2. I think this is relevant to your question; I'm a student that commutes to UTSC (and also, UTSC being a commuter school). I think our social environment, compared to other schools such as Western, is something that you need to be proactive about. Good social environments will not "find you", you must seek them out.

3. There is a great variety of extra curricular opportunities both in sports (more of the major competitive sports events/games take place at UTSG though). Again, as in 2), don't expect these opportunities will just "fly" to you. During September, there is a week called "Clubs Week", where all clubs come out in the "Meeting Place" to recruit new people. Most clubs will accept members throughout the year, but executive positions are more commonly found at the beginning of semesters.

4. I cannot comment on the ease/difficulty on finding a co-op placement as my first placement is scheduled to take place Jan. 2013. First year co-op students must take a co-op prep. course which walks you though interview skills (with mock interviews with senior students and employers), your cover letter and resume and other skills relevant to the workplace.

Hopefully, that answers your questions.

Got in today, deciding between MIB and Laurier DD (Financial Math)

Thing is, it's a brand new program. Could go both ways towards the possibility of a successful program vs a failure. I'm keen on doing finances, so I'm not quite sure what to expect from Coop management and whether this international experience will be of use. I took a look at the calender and there seem to be many courses not relevant to my final destination.

Regardless I think I'm gonna go and do a campus visit and see if I can get my questions answered first before deciding anything

But wait, I thought you can't switch into co-op management. MIB students would be doing intl work prep courses in their first year. So that means they MUST remain in the program, rite?

What I'm kinda confused about is the career paths leading out from this program, would I be right to assume that this program isn't for someone who's looking to go into banking, analyst..stuff like that, but rather more like manager, human resources..stuff like that?

That's exactly what I'm confused about too! I think you can choose a few courses outside of International Biz in your upper years. So if you're interested in banking, you can choose courses relating to Finance. I dont know if this is how it will work, I'm just guessing!
I hope this doesn't turn to be a failure. What if they're just creating all this hype to make the program look extra special? O.o But it seems like a great program.

To all who got in, you'd be happy reading this:
http://mgmtcoop.utsc.utoronto.c...te-for-mib-co-op-program

Hi guys, this is going to be a long post in response to a few of your posts.



I'm not sure which program you are referring to, the co-op management program or the MiB. In fact, I don't even know if MiB is a program or just a specialization that you can gain direct entry to from high school. In regards to the co-op management program, you have the option to specialize (in any year, and you have to option to also switch specializations) in a variety of disciplines such as: management, HR, finance, accounting, organizational behaviour and a few more. Upon graduation, your degree will still only read "BBA", but on your transcript, it will specify your specialization. I'm pretty sure you can still put what you're specializing on your resume though. Again, I'm not familiar with the MiB program, so it's better to just call them up.




Again, as I posted earlier, I have no knowledge of the MiB program. The management co-op work term prep course is an "in class" course. If you want more specifics, you are required to attend (IIRC) 2 social and 2 academic workshops/events (like for i.e. branding seminars, bowling, snakes & latte), attend 2 networking events and attend (IIRC) 90% of classes (I think it worked out to be, not being allowed to miss more than 3 classes). The classes run for 1 hr each week with very limited readings and no cyclical homework/assignments. Some classes, guest speakers (such as people in the industry) or senior students will run the class instead.

If you want more info in regards to anything co-op related (I'm assuming MiB is also handled by the same people):
mgmtcoop@utsc.utoronto.ca (I think this is a general email)
mcdowell@utsc.utoronto.ca (Kathleen McDowell, she is the co-op program co-coordinator, and usually replies within 24 hours)
Co-Op Office Phone: (416) 287-7111

In regards to the courses (excluding accounting), I'm just going to copy and paste a previous post.
- Two of them are called, introduction to management I/II. (MGTA03, MGTA04). General business knowledge is ideal, accounting knowledge for intro. to management II is a plus.
- Micro/Macroeconomics: Mathematical Approach. (ECMA04, ECMA06). If you know basic derivatives, you're set for the mathematical component.
- Calc. for management I/II. (MATA32, MATA33). First half of Calc. I is essentially Gr.12 review. Latter half is, IIRC, integration/anti-derivatives. Calc. II is about double (triple) integrals, matrices, linear programming,lagrange multipliers
and probably a few more subjects I missed.

I also think I commented about the financial accounting courses (MGTB05/MGTB06)a while back, but I can't find my actual post. But to answer your question, I think the accounting courses are the hardest 1st year courses you'll have. If you have an understanding of the basic fundamentals of accounting, it shouldn't be too bad (DR/CR, basic accounts and statements, GAAP/IFRS). Most of the people that didn't fare too well with accounting, were people learning it for the first time. I don't remember what topics were covered in HS accounting, but for the most part, if you have a basic understanding, your professor's slides will be able to guide you through the topics in good detail.



Hi, in regards to the courses in pre-program (and the math courses), please see below (it's exactly the same info as posted above)
- Two of them are called, introduction to management I/II. (MGTA03, MGTA04). General business knowledge is ideal, accounting knowledge for intro. to management II is a plus.
- Micro/Macroeconomics: Mathematical Approach. (ECMA04, ECMA06). If you know basic derivatives, you're set for the mathematical component.
- Calc. for management I/II. (MATA32, MATA33). First half of Calc. I is essentially Gr.12 review. Latter half is, IIRC, integration/anti-derivatives. Calc. II is about double (triple) integrals, matrices, linear programming lagrange multipliers
and probably a few more subjects I missed.

In second year, you'll also take courses that explore micro/macro economics further, which may require differentiating, lagrange multipliers. You'll also be taking a stats course (will not require previous knowledge of stats).

I can't comment on UTM's program as I don't know anyone that is enrolled in it.

I don't think it will be too inconvenient to transfer to other programs as I know a friend who decided to switch into the sciences. For the most part, since first year management you're taking first-year courses that are general in a sense, some of your credits may fulfill program requirements of other programs. You may want to speak to the staff at "academic advising & career centre" or the registrars for more info.
Contact info for academic advising:
Phone: (416) 287-7561
http://webapps.utsc.utoronto.ca/aaccweb/ (I actually noticed that they're running this online chat session tomorrow and on the 30th, so you may want to check that out).

Thankyou ^_^