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Bio Stats at UWO Options
rosie9333
#1 Posted : Tuesday, May 22, 2012 12:38:05 PM
Rank: Frosh


Joined: 6/24/2011
Posts: 6
Is it really that bad? Or is the prof just really bad?

Statistics is a prerequisite for vet school so I really want to get a good mark.

I might also be able to take psych stats but I just don't want to take a full year statistics course since my schedule is really full.
freebird
#2 Posted : Tuesday, May 22, 2012 5:31:11 PM
Rank: Senior Student


Joined: 4/23/2011
Posts: 230
It's that bad unfortunately. Sorry. Not the material necessarily, but the profs and course structure. I don't know if the profs will be the same, but I just didn't get much value out of the lectures and basically learned everything from the text book by doing the practice questions. In the labs even the TAs didn't know what the questions were asking. I'd say it's the most frustrating course I've taken. That being said, my mark was actually good because they added 10% or something to everyone's exams since the average was so low. But I'm not sure there's any way to predict whether you'll understand the exams or not - it seemed more of a test of whether you understand what they're asking rather than a test of stats knowledge/skills.

Unless something changes for the fall, biostats is something to be avoided if possible. Would I trade it for full-year psych stats? Maybe, if you value a high mark in stats over taking another elective. Or take the gamble and endure the frustration of a brutal half-year course. It's a tough call, but thinking back to that semester, I'm pretty sure I would have taken the psych stats if I'd had the choice.
UWO Honours Specialization in Medical Sciences 2013
ac11
#3 Posted : Tuesday, May 22, 2012 6:44:59 PM
Rank: Frosh


Joined: 5/22/2012
Posts: 1
I kinda agree with freebird, and at the same time I don't. Yes most people have a tough time with biostats because the lectures are hard to understand and the TAs don't know what they're doing in the labs, thus you will have to learn everything from the textbook. However, the average for this course is similar to all other 2nd year biomed courses (~70-73%), and that's not gonna change. For the labs, you're either gonna get a nice TA who's knows what they're doing and is willing to help you or you'll have to rely on the people around you. Either way, the average for labs is like 7/10, and most people do get over 8 so not that bad (the lab experience just sucks - think of first year physics). As for lectures, just do the textbook questions and you should be fine for the exams, there's no other way around it (I like to do them during his lectures because if I can't understand his lectures and am forced to answer clicker questions for marks, might as well do something productive). He does give some practice questions before the midterms, and they give you a good idea of what to expect on exams. In the end, I would not do full year psych stats instead of a half year biostats - stats sucks period and I'd rather not learn about it for another semester. It's just not needed; biostats is frustrating, but not impossible. (just in case you wanna know, i ended with an 90% but I'm a low 80 kinda person in all my other biomed courses so i'm not pre-med smart at all, yet I did well in biostats)
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