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Why do you want to become a teacher? And how/when did you find out?
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Rank: Senior Student
Joined: 6/28/2011 Posts: 188
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I wanted to be a teacher because there were too many idiots - people who don't know when to do the right thing.
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Rank: Student Council  Joined: 11/30/2010 Posts: 441
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I was in grade 11 when I decided I wanted to teach. Honestly, somewhere deep down I'd always known I wanted to teach but my parents tried to steer me in a more financially prosperous direction. It came about because I saw an advertisement to work for the City of Mississauga as a summer camp staff. I began working that March Break for the City and the energy those kids gave me and the genuinely thankful gestures they gave were enough to sell me. A camp setting is definitely different from the classroom, but the customers are still the same: young, energetic people. In all, I'm doing teaching because it's something I genuinely enjoy. I had a 95% average coming out of high school and could've been anything I wanted. If money was a motive I would not be in teaching. Teaching is something you should go into for this reason, not anything else. Queen's-Trent Concurrent Education, '14 (Trent B.Sc) and '15 (Queen's B.Ed)
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Rank: Senior Student  Joined: 7/4/2012 Posts: 63
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I think teaching is a bit easier profession. It really help in building confident.
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Rank: Senior Student  Joined: 7/4/2012 Posts: 63
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What do you guys say about that.
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Rank: Senior Student  Joined: 4/13/2012 Posts: 12
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I think you are out of your mind if you think teaching is easy. With the government making every class a split grade (Meaning: teach two different lessons at once, every period of the day, which might not even be the same topic: EXAMPLE: Grade 4 Medieval Times and Grade 5 Canadian Government at the same time for Social Studies / or Grade 5 Energy and Grade 6 Biodiversity at the same time, for Science), you will go nuts and always feel like a failure at your job. Keeping one grade quiet and on task while you teach the other grade, marking >30students X 8 to 10 periods a day every night while at home (with detailed feedback, not just check marks...)... and that's just the marking -- forget time to actually plan your lessons, shop for materials on your own time, set stuff up, do report cards and IEPs and administrative legal papers. You can't do any of this at school because you have yard duty 2 - 3 breaks per day, a shorter than legally allowed lunch hour (during which time you have to run extra-curriculars rather than eat).. After school there are meetings and detentions and more extracurriculars, or upgrading courses that you have to pay for ($800 a shot). Don't forget you can't even leave the room to pee or have diarrhea during the day or you can be sued. You can be sued for up to 7 years after any field trip, and you won't be covered by board insurance since you were off school property. (Example: you could be accused of ignoring poor Johnny 6 years ago on a trip, and be charged with neglect or abandonment.... and they can go after your home as payment). Don't forget you can be accused of sexual assault, etc., and lose everything. This happened to my mom's colleague who had a nervous breakdown after being maliciously accused of touching a kid. It was thrown out of court but she never recovered and had to quit her job. Back to the day job.... While teaching those split grade classes, you are also offering lessons within your class AT THE SAME TIME, which are 2 - 3 years below for students on IEP (example: teach a Grade 5/6 Math class, two different math lessons at the same time, and at the same time teach a bunch of "one-on-one" lessons in Grade 2, Grade 3 and Grade 4 math for the kids with IEPs, without any type of assistant.... (They aren't allowed to fail a grade, so they just take the lower level course the following year, in your classroom). Sometimes there are kids with Gifted IEPs, and their parents will sue you if you don't enrich them to 1 - 2 years above the curriculum level, or teach them in the newest method they have just researched on the web. On top of the split grades and the IEPs, differentiate the ALL of the above lessons for kids who are visual learners, kinesthetic learners, auditory learners so that some kids will do a verbal report, some will act it out, some will play the flute to express what they learned, some will work in a group, some can't go near other kids, some are autistic and some are violent....etc., (This is the new mandate -- you have to find, document and meet each kid's unique learning style and learning needs ON TOP of their required academic grade level...) Yes, there will be some kids you really like and care about. Of course there will be. Some of them will want to talk privately about family issues, etc. or want a hug. You can't hug them or touch them or you will be sued. You can't talk to a student privately in your room because the board covers its butt and doesn't want you to get sued for doing anything inappropriate. If the child does disclose something about their family you have to call CAS and then the family will hate you and start crusades against you. There are over 400 expectations for each kid to master each year. Times 30 kids = 12000 expectations to teach, all at different speeds, different lessons, with different materials (some kids need visual, some need hands on, some need hand-outs and memory work, others can't learn that way). Then there's the behavioural issues and social work issues of kids throwing stuff, swearing at you, mocking and imitating you, calling you fat or stupid, laughing in your face when you discipline them, not doing homework, beating the heck out of each other, administrations that allow all of this because they have low suspension quotas and can't address every behaviour issue in the school.... Having no say in what grade you teach or what subjects it will involve on rotary...not having adequate text books but not being allowed to photocopy anything because of "environmental issues", not being able to voluntarily transfer schools or switch boards.... All after waiting ten years to get a full time job ( instead of supply work) even if you have an M.Ed. While you are a supply teacher you can't even qualify for a mortgage because it is not considered reliable income. You trudge through the year and scrape together enough material / lessons to get by. You save it all painstakingly on your computer to use the next year. Surprise. You are forced to switch schools because of low enrollment, and / or you are told to teach a totally different grade level / subject area the next year. Forget "teachables". You teach what you are told to teach, where you are told to teach. Some teachers will be forced to teach according to their qualifications, "Sorry, Bill, you have to leave our school next year because you aren't qualified for Intermediate and that's the only job we have". Others have no qualifications for their jobs but have to do them anyway "Sorry, Sally, I know you are a Primary Specialist but you are going to teach Grade 7/8 Science, like it or not". The emotional drain will nearly kill you. Being surrounded by the energy (often negativity) of 30+ rambunctious personalities all day is exhausting. You have to be nice to one kid, funny with another, serious with another... back and forth like Jekyll and Hyde. You spend your day managing the thoughts, behaviours and actions of 30 other people all day (but you can't be uniform about it because it HAS TO BE differentiated). You spend your day deciding when other people can urinate, and remembering when they last went so that they don't pee their pants. (But, if you let them go too often you are also in trouble, from Admin.) It is constant bombarding of stimuli, noise, decision making and organization with no time to regroup. Don't forget the public will hate you for the holidays, for having a cushy job, and for not doing a good job. The parents will hate you because either you give too much homework or not enough, or because you are too nice to the kids or too tough on the kids. Their kid will never be the problem or the bully. Their kid would never bully a teacher (LOL). The media will hate you for the union and the EQAO scores. The kids will hate you because you aren't interactive technology and they aren't used to learning anything with their ears. They will not want to use pencil and paper. They are used to learning everything on google. Our system is entirely antiquated and out of touch with kids' needs. Even the computers are slow at most schools. There aren't enough to go around and kids fight over them. Then they get banned from the network for visiting Facebook, etc., when you aren't looking. At my mom's school she gets in crap if she even turns the lights on. (They monitor your lightbulb usage and report it on announcements; you are supposed to work in the dark to save money). At the end of the day every kid will pass the year, even if they do no homework, can't read and don't know how to add 1 + 1. We can't fail them or they might feel bad. They know this, so they do very little work and have little respect for learning anything. Now the teachers will be losing their pensions and their accumulated sick days... even though they are continually exposed to sick children with coughs, strep throat or flu bugs, who never wash their hands or stay home from school.... Teaching is considered the second most stressful career possible. It has the shortest life expectancy after retirement. Sure, what a blast. Enjoy. To all the would be teachers, all I can say is .... GOOD LUCK WITH THAT. Have fun. PS. If you really like children (the common thread of applicants to teachers' college), then by all means work with children. I'm not a child hater! I love kids, too! Enjoying children does not mean you have to teach. Be a social worker, a pediatrician, a children's lawyer. Work with children one at a time. Dealing with 30 at once, with all the BS, constraints and legalities I have mentioned, is ridiculous. You will burn out and stop loving "kids" very quickly.
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Rank: Senior Student
Joined: 1/3/2012 Posts: 72
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Thank you Ba Ba Blue for your response. I can tell that you'll be a great teacher. Good luck! :) I'm not really sure if I want to become one too.
And to differentusername, that's a very detailed rant lol. Even though the schools where I'm from aren't like that...
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Rank: Senior Student  Joined: 4/13/2012 Posts: 12
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How are your schools "not like that"? Where are you from? The only difference you may be lucky enough to have is that maybe you don't have split grades in your board. You still get 30 kids. You still need to differentiate for everyone and meet their learning style. You still can't go to the bathroom. There are still legalities wherever you teach. You still have to mark everything and plan lessons at night for free. Have fun.
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Rank: Senior Student  Joined: 12/1/2011 Posts: 57
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differentusername wrote:I think you are out of your mind if you think teaching is easy. With the government making every class a split grade (Meaning: teach two different lessons at once, every period of the day, which might not even be the same topic: EXAMPLE: Grade 4 Medieval Times and Grade 5 Canadian Government at the same time for Social Studies / or Grade 5 Energy and Grade 6 Biodiversity at the same time, for Science), you will go nuts and always feel like a failure at your job. Keeping one grade quiet and on task while you teach the other grade, marking >30students X 8 to 10 periods a day every night while at home (with detailed feedback, not just check marks...)... and that's just the marking -- forget time to actually plan your lessons, shop for materials on your own time, set stuff up, do report cards and IEPs and administrative legal papers. You can't do any of this at school because you have yard duty 2 - 3 breaks per day, a shorter than legally allowed lunch hour (during which time you have to run extra-curriculars rather than eat).. After school there are meetings and detentions and more extracurriculars, or upgrading courses that you have to pay for ($800 a shot).
Don't forget you can't even leave the room to pee or have diarrhea during the day or you can be sued.
You can be sued for up to 7 years after any field trip, and you won't be covered by board insurance since you were off school property. (Example: you could be accused of ignoring poor Johnny 6 years ago on a trip, and be charged with neglect or abandonment.... and they can go after your home as payment).
Don't forget you can be accused of sexual assault, etc., and lose everything. This happened to my mom's colleague who had a nervous breakdown after being maliciously accused of touching a kid. It was thrown out of court but she never recovered and had to quit her job.
Back to the day job.... While teaching those split grade classes, you are also offering lessons within your class AT THE SAME TIME, which are 2 - 3 years below for students on IEP (example: teach a Grade 5/6 Math class, two different math lessons at the same time, and at the same time teach a bunch of "one-on-one" lessons in Grade 2, Grade 3 and Grade 4 math for the kids with IEPs, without any type of assistant.... (They aren't allowed to fail a grade, so they just take the lower level course the following year, in your classroom). Sometimes there are kids with Gifted IEPs, and their parents will sue you if you don't enrich them to 1 - 2 years above the curriculum level, or teach them in the newest method they have just researched on the web.
On top of the split grades and the IEPs, differentiate the ALL of the above lessons for kids who are visual learners, kinesthetic learners, auditory learners so that some kids will do a verbal report, some will act it out, some will play the flute to express what they learned, some will work in a group, some can't go near other kids, some are autistic and some are violent....etc., (This is the new mandate -- you have to find, document and meet each kid's unique learning style and learning needs ON TOP of their required academic grade level...)
Yes, there will be some kids you really like and care about. Of course there will be. Some of them will want to talk privately about family issues, etc. or want a hug. You can't hug them or touch them or you will be sued. You can't talk to a student privately in your room because the board covers its butt and doesn't want you to get sued for doing anything inappropriate. If the child does disclose something about their family you have to call CAS and then the family will hate you and start crusades against you.
There are over 400 expectations for each kid to master each year. Times 30 kids = 12000 expectations to teach, all at different speeds, different lessons, with different materials (some kids need visual, some need hands on, some need hand-outs and memory work, others can't learn that way).
Then there's the behavioural issues and social work issues of kids throwing stuff, swearing at you, mocking and imitating you, calling you fat or stupid, laughing in your face when you discipline them, not doing homework, beating the heck out of each other, administrations that allow all of this because they have low suspension quotas and can't address every behaviour issue in the school.... Having no say in what grade you teach or what subjects it will involve on rotary...not having adequate text books but not being allowed to photocopy anything because of "environmental issues", not being able to voluntarily transfer schools or switch boards.... All after waiting ten years to get a full time job ( instead of supply work) even if you have an M.Ed. While you are a supply teacher you can't even qualify for a mortgage because it is not considered reliable income.
You trudge through the year and scrape together enough material / lessons to get by. You save it all painstakingly on your computer to use the next year. Surprise. You are forced to switch schools because of low enrollment, and / or you are told to teach a totally different grade level / subject area the next year. Forget "teachables". You teach what you are told to teach, where you are told to teach. Some teachers will be forced to teach according to their qualifications, "Sorry, Bill, you have to leave our school next year because you aren't qualified for Intermediate and that's the only job we have". Others have no qualifications for their jobs but have to do them anyway "Sorry, Sally, I know you are a Primary Specialist but you are going to teach Grade 7/8 Science, like it or not".
The emotional drain will nearly kill you. Being surrounded by the energy (often negativity) of 30+ rambunctious personalities all day is exhausting. You have to be nice to one kid, funny with another, serious with another... back and forth like Jekyll and Hyde. You spend your day managing the thoughts, behaviours and actions of 30 other people all day (but you can't be uniform about it because it HAS TO BE differentiated). You spend your day deciding when other people can urinate, and remembering when they last went so that they don't pee their pants. (But, if you let them go too often you are also in trouble, from Admin.) It is constant bombarding of stimuli, noise, decision making and organization with no time to regroup.
Don't forget the public will hate you for the holidays, for having a cushy job, and for not doing a good job. The parents will hate you because either you give too much homework or not enough, or because you are too nice to the kids or too tough on the kids. Their kid will never be the problem or the bully. Their kid would never bully a teacher (LOL). The media will hate you for the union and the EQAO scores.
The kids will hate you because you aren't interactive technology and they aren't used to learning anything with their ears. They will not want to use pencil and paper. They are used to learning everything on google. Our system is entirely antiquated and out of touch with kids' needs. Even the computers are slow at most schools. There aren't enough to go around and kids fight over them. Then they get banned from the network for visiting Facebook, etc., when you aren't looking.
At my mom's school she gets in crap if she even turns the lights on. (They monitor your lightbulb usage and report it on announcements; you are supposed to work in the dark to save money).
At the end of the day every kid will pass the year, even if they do no homework, can't read and don't know how to add 1 + 1. We can't fail them or they might feel bad. They know this, so they do very little work and have little respect for learning anything.
Now the teachers will be losing their pensions and their accumulated sick days... even though they are continually exposed to sick children with coughs, strep throat or flu bugs, who never wash their hands or stay home from school....
Teaching is considered the second most stressful career possible. It has the shortest life expectancy after retirement.
Sure, what a blast. Enjoy.
To all the would be teachers, all I can say is .... GOOD LUCK WITH THAT. Have fun.
PS. If you really like children (the common thread of applicants to teachers' college), then by all means work with children. I'm not a child hater! I love kids, too! Enjoying children does not mean you have to teach. Be a social worker, a pediatrician, a children's lawyer. Work with children one at a time. Dealing with 30 at once, with all the BS, constraints and legalities I have mentioned, is ridiculous. You will burn out and stop loving "kids" very quickly. +1 x 1000! I too have a parent who is a teacher, as well as several aunts and cousins, and this is a pretty accurate description of just how "fun" teaching is as a job. Even worse, the challenges listed above only apply if you actually manage to find a job. Teaching jobs in desirable parts of Ontario are pretty much non-existent right now. The hiring situation is just terrible for those with teaching degrees, as there is a massive over-supply of teachers that far exceeds the demand and the available jobs. Most of the schools boards in the GTA (TDSB, Peel, Halton) haven't even opened their supply lists for the past several years because they have such an excess of teachers (that means that new graduates haven't even been able to get a few days of supply teaching or LTOs for the past several years, much less a real position). The situation has become so bad that the Ontario College of Teachers has finally placed a cap on the number of students who can be accepted into education programs each year, although that is actually something they should have done years ago. Read more about that cap here: http://oncampus.macleans...nt-find-full-time-work/
Of course most education students think that they are special and that they will somehow be the lucky one who finds a teaching job within a few years of graduating, but things don't work that way in the real world unless you are willing to pack up and move to northern Ontario or remote parts of Alberta (not talking Calgary) for a job. I have several friends who did con-ed at Queen's as well as another cousin who has an education degree, and every single one of them has yet to find a teaching job despite now being 3-4 years out of their degree, despite putting in countless volunteer hours at schools and despite whatever additional qualifications they spent money on hoping that it would give them a competitive edge in getting hired (special ed, languages, etc). Someone retired in my aunt's department this year and she told us that within two days of the job being posted there were already over 300 hundred applicants, all of them highly qualified. These applicants weren't recent education graduates either, but rather were people who were already in the board doing supply work for 5-10 years. Keep in mind that this was to teach grd. 11 and 12 physics, which is a position that would have far less applicants than something like English, history, or other social sciences/arts. I thought about going into con-ed when I was applying for schools and I easily had the grades to get in but I was strongly dissuaded from it by my family. I'm not trying to be harsh to anyone who wants to be a teacher, but a lot of people in this forum do indeed seem overly idealistic and I think they deserve to know how insanely hard it is going to be to find a job. Are you a broke student? I've earned over $500 in amazon giftcards from Swagbucks since August, 2011. I haven't had to pay for a single textbook out of pocket since joining, and I have money left over for coffee! Interested? Sign up using my link: http://www.swagbucks.com/refer/alicial89
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Rank: Senior Student  Joined: 4/13/2012 Posts: 12
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Thanks for agreeing Ariadne! My mom has been sharing these horror stories with me my whole life. She teaches middle school for TDSB. She was lucky to get a job 20 years ago (even then it was nearly impossible). She has been at the same school 19 years because it's impossible to even move schools within the board. Forget switching boards; it's unheard of. Since she started at her school 19 years ago they have hired approximately 4 teachers. Most years they lay off or surplus 2 - 3 of them, even if they have up to 8 years of full time experience. Three of the 4 teachers who got hired aren't there any more because they got surplussed. They had to move to other schools like 40 miles from their homes to teach things they hated. My mom's principal said that a study proved EVERY teachers college in Ontario could shut its doors for a decade, and we would still have enough teachers. Now that the teachers will have their sick days cut, finding supply work will be virtually impossible too. It is the most thankless job I can imagine. Everyone consistently bashes teachers: Media, Parents, Kids. The biggest joke to me is EQAO. Apparently every single kid in that Grade (example Grade 6) has to write the test. To most people that sounds like a no- brainer. What they don't realize is that 40% of kids in Grade 6 are not legally allowed to be taught a Grade 6 curriculum because they have lower (or higher) grade IEPs. Meaning 40% of Grade 6 kids across TDSB legally have to be taught Grade 2, 3, 4 or 5 material all year. You can be fired if you teach them Grade 6 material. You also have to accommodate all their learning disabilities by writing the Grade 2, 3, 4, or 5 answers for them, reading the questions out loud, etc., Then when it's time for EQAO those kids have to do a Grade 6 test on material that you were not allowed to teach them. You can not accommodate them on the test. Then if they bomb it, it is reported in the media that the teacher sucks. The other big joke is that even if kids are absent or exempted from the test, they get marked as a ZERO (not as "absent"). This means it will pull down the class average and also reflect on the teacher. That will, in turn, pull down the school's averages. Nowhere in the data will it say the kid was absent. This is all too much BS for me to believe. Work with kids one on one. If you love "teaching", go work at Kumon. I can't believe the teachers' colleges are taking kids' money knowing very well they will not get a job. What a scam.
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Rank: Senior Student
Joined: 1/3/2012 Posts: 72
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It's only that bad in Ontario... Where I'm from, there are some split classes but for the same course, just different grades. Like grade 11/12 computers, accounting, art etc. So you're basically teaching the same stuff, but the higher grades have more difficult assignments/lessons since they have more knowledge and experience. Our teachers don't have yard duty, unless they volunteer. We have supervisors(just normal adults). And our teachers can leave the classroom... None of the teachers here get sued or accused. And they don't have to "find, document and meet each kid's unique learning style and learning needs". They teach using their methods, if people don't understand then they can ask questions and get more help. Then the teacher would use a different teaching style to make sure that the student understands. And teachers can talk to their students privately in the classroom(it happens all the time). Being a teacher means being a role model for your students. I'm pretty sure every teacher will be concerned if a student is having family issues etc. "Then there's the behavioural issues and social work issues of kids throwing stuff, swearing at you, mocking and imitating you, calling you fat or stupid, laughing in your face when you discipline them, not doing homework, beating the heck out of each other, administrations that allow all of this because they have low suspension quotas and can't address every behaviour issue in the school...." Well if your a good teacher, then you won't have much of those problems. And I'm pretty sure that students would be more mature than that... "Having no say in what grade you teach or what subjects it will involve on rotary...not having adequate text books but not being allowed to photocopy anything because of "environmental issues", not being able to voluntarily transfer schools or switch boards.... All after waiting ten years to get a full time job ( instead of supply work) even if you have an M.Ed." What subjects you teach depends on how much experience you have of it. Like if you studied French and English at university, then that's what you're going to teach. They can't make you teach something like Physics(unless you're a sub). And you can choose if you want to teach secondary/middle/elementary. And our teacher are allowed to photocopy sheets. Students are allowed to too, but we have to pay. And our teachers are allowed to voluntarily transfer or switch if there is enough room. It doesn't take 10 years to get a full time teaching job here. It just depends on what and where you want to teach. It usually only takes a couple of years. Our teachers are allowed to turn the lights on... And they would do their best to make every kid pass. http://www.walletpop.ca/...-canadian-jobs-of-2012/ Sorry I don't know how to link that. You said teaching is the 2nd most stressful career, but it's not. This study was from the beginning of this year, and teaching isn't part of the top 12 stressful careers in Canada. "It has the shortest life expectancy after retirement." And where's the proof for that? Some people have a passion for teaching and they can become really good ones. Others aren't made for teaching. You might think dealing with 30 at once is BS, but many people can deal with it. Wow this actually took a while to write...
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Rank: Senior Student  Joined: 4/13/2012 Posts: 12
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Are you in Alberta? I've heard that their system is actually awesome. If so, you are really lucky! Most of your comments seem based on High School rather than middle school / elementary, but if so good for you. In Ontario it is just ridiculous to get a job, and sadly even very good teachers are bullied all the time -- the system does nothing about it.
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Rank: Student Council  Joined: 11/30/2010 Posts: 441
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Everything differentusername said does not dissuade me from seeking a career in education. I've heard it all before (and so does every other B.Ed student), but honestly that is secondary to me. In my opinion it is really important to enjoy what you are doing. Even if it takes you longer to get to a point where that is possible, it will happen and it's that glimmer of hope ahead at the end of the tunnel that drives me to continue. I am absolutely in love with the profession after 2 placements (including one in a very low-income school). I do not plan to change my career path any time soon, and would like to encourage others to stick with their dreams if education is what they want regardless of what the reality is. Queen's-Trent Concurrent Education, '14 (Trent B.Sc) and '15 (Queen's B.Ed)
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Rank: Senior Student  Joined: 4/21/2012 Posts: 97
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In my opinion teaching is best profession among all as we educate people and it also give good hype in society as well as in personality, I personally want to be teacher of mathematics.
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Rank: Senior Student
Joined: 8/23/2011 Posts: 122
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This is actually such a complicated question. The idea of becoming a teacher first popped into my head when I was in kindergarten-- and started playing teacher every day after school :D Of course, being a kid, I wasn't 100% serious, but teaching was definitely always in the back of my mind; the career I daydreamed about the most. Even as a little kid, I would read those education magazines for parents and read about the philosophies and approaches of different schools, different ideas about learning and education, etc. I know, I was one weird kid! Also, having been around teachers my whole life, I realized what a huge influence they have on kids. There are things my teachers from grade 1 told me that I still haven't forgotten. I've had many great teachers, and I was amazed at their ability to make me enjoy subjects I thought I hated, and to love studying and learning. I really wanted to do what they did. Of course, I've also had quite a few teachers who made my school experience very unpleasant... but that also motivated me to teach :D It might sound cheesy, but teachers really do have a very important job of educating and shaping the future. Like Ba Ba Blue, what differentusername said does not dissuade me from pursuing a teaching career. I agree what differentusername says is true, to an extent. And it's not that I think I'm special and will be that one person who gets a job. But I won't know till I try! And every job has it's ups and downs, and you have to be willing to accept both! As for Con Ed, I don't know what I'll be doing a few years from now, I've been wanting to teach for so long that it doesn't make sense for me not to try. I would regret it for the rest of my life. Choosing Con Ed doesn't close any doors for me-- it doesn't force me to become a teacher-- it opens doors. Nothing I learn in this program will be wasted- at the very least, I'll gain social, communication, and professional skills and maybe apply what I learn about education to my own education. I'll also learn if teaching is something I *really* want to do. That said, I had an offer to another great program. When I was trying to decide on a program, I came across a newspaper article about 4 teachers, in their 20s, getting a teaching job in Ontario (one was an English teacher!), and the principal's comments on how he thought new teachers were valuable because they could bring new ideas to the table. A sign? Maybe, maybe not. But it shows that things aren't 100% hopeless for teachers. :) Ok, this sounds like an essay now. Sorry. Why couldn't I write this much when I actually needed to-- like for my uni apps? -.-
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Rank: Senior Student  Joined: 4/13/2012 Posts: 12
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Good luck to all of you. I like your enthusiasm for the job! I'm sure that I would really enjoy it too (in a practical sense) but I just think that the ministry drains all the life out of it with legalities, etc. I think they really need to revamp because there is just toooo much for one person to conquer. If you don't mind being a supply teacher for many years, go for it!! At my mom's school there is a teacher going on Maternity Leave. They had 440 applications for the long term supply job. Most of the applicants had been doing supply for more than 10 years and had Masters of Ed degrees, with many qualifications like Spec Ed. They didn't even look at the fresh grads because there were so many experienced applicants. But, honestly, follow your dreams. That's why I'm going to McGill and no one could dissuade me from that!
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Rank: Senior Student
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I'm from BC, not Alberta. I wonder why the differences are so big. Our education system right now isn't that great because of the stupid government... I've never really seen a teacher get bullied lol.
Good luck on getting a job! You'll all be inspiring teachers.
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