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since this is the law section
and what are your opinions on controversial topics like legalizations marijuana, prostituion and teaching intelligent design in school
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Death penalty - for some crimes, yes Marijuana - no, keep it criminalized Hookers - no, keep them criminalized Teaching intelligent design - yes, teach it, but it should parallel the amount of time dedicated to teaching evolution.
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Death Penalty: Yeah get it in for the worst of the worst. The last thing we need is to be paying to keep people in jails indefinitely who could be dealt with for good. Weed: If a government had any sense they would legalise it, make it freely available over the counter and tax it like cigs, there-by destroying that section of the drugs 'underworld' and making £££. Prostitution: Selling your body is no different to selling any other personal service and shouldn't be seen as such, make it a far less taboo issue and a regulated industry to move it away from the pimps, human trafficking and slavery it can be associated with. Intelligent Design: Not a clue what it is really, not a term I've heard before as a subject to be taught. But evolution happened, end of. McGill - Arts
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Death penalty: I used to believe in the whole "eye for an eye" philosophy, so I was for it in cases of homicide. But now that I think of the possibility of executing someone who's innocent, I think life in prison will suffice. Marijuana: Legalize it. It's less harmful than alcohol and tobacco. Prostitution: Keep it illegal. Teaching intelligent design: If it's taught as a religious/philosophical subject, then fine. But I'm against teaching it in science classes as an alternative to evolution.
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Death penalty: Drug traffickers, murderers, rapists, mafia et.al
Marijuana: RECRIMINALIZATION. Forced detoxification for all found to still be smoking after 3 warnings.
Prostitution: Establish regulated red-light districts. The whores should get regular STD tests, and follow a set of rule's similar to that of Holland's. Keep it illegal everywhere else.
Teaching intelligent design: Can be taught in religion class. Science should continue to to focus entirely on evolution.
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Rank: Senior Student  Joined: 12/20/2010 Posts: 76
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Death penalty: Should ever be used, regardless of the crime or the method. Marijuana: Legalize and tax it. Prostitution: Legalize and regulate it. Intelligent design: Acceptable in religion classes, never in science classes. University of Toronto, Trinity College
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Death Penalty-this is a controversial issue and honestly the legal system does have its flaws so a good person could be wrongly hanged. The murderer could be a father avenging the killing of his family while the drug trafficker may have indirectly killed hundreds of people. It should be enforced depending on the crime such as raping a child. Marijuana-Legalize it, it's safer than alcohol and tobacco. Prostitution-Legalize it with restrictions because it is each individual's choice and body. Intelligent Design-Can be taught in religion class and other social science classes such as philosophy but science classes should remain true to its principles and should never be mixed with religion. **Shields**
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ARMY101 wrote:Death penalty - for some crimes, yes
Marijuana - no, keep it criminalized
Hookers - no, keep them criminalized
Teaching intelligent design - yes, teach it, but it should parallel the amount of time dedicated to teaching evolution. Why? that's ridiculous. We teach evolution in school because it is a theory that can withstand questioning and scientific reasoning and has earned it's rightful spot through solid evidence. Intelligent design/creationism on the other hand is nothing but a myth that has been debunked over and over again. Why on earth does it deserve equal treatment as evolution? you're just another bible thumper lacking the most basic critical thinking skills.
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Death penalty- no IMO unnecessary a life sentence will do Marijuana- keep it criminalized. They can make mad money off it but its really not something to promote by legalization. hookers- limited to brothels that are registered under the gov't Teaching Intelligent Design- What happens in religion class stays and religion class. Science and religion should never be mixed. You cant mix faith with fact (or scientific theory in this case). **Shields**
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Rank: Senior Student
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Death Penalty - ... are you human? Marijuana - Legalize. They'll do it anyways. Hookers - Their choice. Do it. But don't spread it. Teaching Intelligent Design - I don't know.. if enough people are into it, sure. Accepted to
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University of Toronto: Health Sciences
University of Western Ontario: Medical Sciences (Physiology/Pharmacology)
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LRooke wrote:
Marijuana: RECRIMINALIZATION. Forced detoxification for all found to still be smoking after 3 warnings.
May I ask why? McGill - Arts
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StudentAtStPats wrote:Death Penalty - ... are you human?
Does a man who rapes and kills a child, is caught in the act and admits to it with pride deserve to have taxpayers money spent on time in a maximum security prison, with average meals often costing more than school dinners? Sure people can change and reform, but there are people (unfortunately) beyond that stage. Or how about a man like Lavrentiy Beria, Stalin's head of the NKVD. One of the most ruthless and sadistic men in recent history (look him up for more info, it's far too inappropriate for here), could be proven categorically guilty of genocide, mass murder, war crimes, torture, rape, among many others, if he were alive today would he not deserve nothing less than death? Incidentally he was executed under Khrushchev in 1953. I agree the cases which may warrant it are rare, but imo do exist. McGill - Arts
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OscarUK wrote:Does a man who rapes and kills a child, is caught in the act and admits to it with pride deserve to have taxpayers money spent on time in a maximum security prison, with average meals often costing more than school dinners? Sure people can change and reform, but there are people (unfortunately) beyond that stage. Or how about a man like Lavrentiy Beria, Stalin's head of the NKVD. One of the most ruthless and sadistic men in recent history (look him up for more info, it's far too inappropriate for here), could be proven categorically guilty of genocide, mass murder, war crimes, torture, rape, among many others, if he were alive today would he not deserve nothing less than death? Incidentally he was executed under Khrushchev in 1953. I agree the cases which may warrant it are rare, but imo do exist. Your points are valid except the part about saving money may be a little hazy Using states as an example most prisoners on death row spend about a decade in prison. "Death row inmates in the U.S. typically spend over a decade awaiting execution. Some prisoners have been on death row for well over 20 years." http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/time-death-row J Just to point out that money isnt saved from the death penalty, in the states, as this article points out. http://www.economist.com/node/13279051
Now this might be because of the States justice system (i know nothing of law) but since states were dropping the death penalty to save money (in article) im wondering why it will save money here? Bringing something back that has been abolished is tough to do so and IMO is a waste of time since there are other more important issues. **Shields**
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sadly wrote:ARMY101 wrote:Death penalty - for some crimes, yes
Marijuana - no, keep it criminalized
Hookers - no, keep them criminalized
Teaching intelligent design - yes, teach it, but it should parallel the amount of time dedicated to teaching evolution. Why? that's ridiculous. We teach evolution in school because it is a theory that can withstand questioning and scientific reasoning and has earned it's rightful spot through solid evidence. Intelligent design/creationism on the other hand is nothing but a myth that has been debunked over and over again. Why on earth does it deserve equal treatment as evolution? you're just another bible thumper lacking the most basic critical thinking skills. LMAO. I'm agnostic. Science class can teach evolution. That doesn't mean an alternate theory doesn't hold any weight.
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^^^^True other theories should be examined. But in order to accept intelligent design you have to believe in God which is an issue on its own. Therefore it shouldn't be taught in bio class and is not necessary. Darwin's theory, though not perfect, has proof to back it up (vestigial structures etc.). I think "sadly" was hoping you would be a hard core christian or something and start debating about god and religion. **Shields**
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Whoa, coming into this thread, I thought that keeping someone in jail for life was way more expensive than executing someone with the death penalty! Good link, that changes my mind then, I think the penalty should be legalized then. Death Penalty: legalized. Marijuana: fairly indifferent, I don't think that legalizing/taxing it would make things monumentally different. There's already such a large population of people that get away with dealing and buying, and I can't imagine our economy incorporating the regulated production and distribution of marijuana. I'd be subject to change my opinion over time if things change, though. I also think that we're (Canada, or Ontario even) still pretty far away from legalizing marijuana. Prostitution: legalized in certain districts. Isn't it way more dangerous for the prostitutes when it's illegal? I don't agree with the practice of selling your body, but it's an industry that certainly exists and I don't think that making it illegal is going to help the situation at all. Teaching intelligent design: Certainly shouldn't be the greatest concern of the education system. I feel that if it were added, educators would have to be even more careful in how they present evolution and intelligent design. I don't think it would hurt the students to know both theories, since they have large presences in the scientific community, but I feel that if it were taught in a science class, it should be devoid of any religious attachment. And this is coming from someone who is quite religious. The University of Western Ontario
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onlymatthew wrote:Whoa, coming into this thread, I thought that keeping someone in jail for life was way more expensive than executing someone with the death penalty! Good link, that changes my mind then, I think the penalty should be legalized then. Death Penalty: legalized. The only reason the death penalty is more expensive is because defence lawyers try to delay their client's penalty for years. They file appeal after appeal, motion after motion. Of course after millions in legal bills it's going to be more expensive than feeding someone. The average prisoner costs about $60,000 a year to house, cloth, feed, etc. A bullet costs a few cents. Take away the legal appeals and the death penalty is much cheaper than housing someone for life.
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onlymatthew wrote:I don't think it would hurt the students to know both theories, since they have large presences in the scientific community, but I feel that if it were taught in a science class, it should be devoid of any religious attachment. Strongly disagree. How does intelligent design have a presence in the scientific community? It's purely religious, and that's how it should be taught - as a philosophy based on faith, not verifiable data - if at all. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyWYpdCpF6M
^ "93% of scientists in the American National Academy of Sciences are atheist or agnostic." Doesn't sound like a large presence to me.
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Zion wrote:onlymatthew wrote:I don't think it would hurt the students to know both theories, since they have large presences in the scientific community, but I feel that if it were taught in a science class, it should be devoid of any religious attachment. Strongly disagree. How does intelligent design have a presence in the scientific community? It's purely religious, and that's how it should be taught - as a philosophy based on faith, not verifiable data - if at all. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyWYpdCpF6M
^ "93% of scientists in the American National Academy of Sciences are atheist or agnostic." Doesn't sound like a large presence to me. +1 "Teach the controversy!" "Which one??!" **Shields**
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Death Penalty - No. Marijuana - Legalize. Here's an interesting article: http://www.time.com/time.../0,8599,1893946,00.html
Prostitution - Legalize. Teaching Intelligent Design - No.
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