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before or after marriage? Options
mynameismattgotmlgo
#41 Posted : Friday, June 03, 2011 6:01:11 PM
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If by "people" you mean "insecure teenage girls", then yes. And Stringer, if I recall correctly. For whatever reason... possibly to do a citizen's arrest or something like that.
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ARMY101
#42 Posted : Friday, June 03, 2011 6:37:46 PM
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ktel wrote:
ARMY101 wrote:
The evidence is clear that couples that wait until after marriage to have sex have lower divorce rates, higher happiness rates, and are more likely to raise committed, principled children. Why? Because committing to one another by waiting to have sex takes a deep, emotional connection. It takes both partners agreeing to put their selfish, short term pleasure aside so that they can commit to waiting together. That takes a very strong relationship.


Is it not possible to commit to each other without marriage?

I will use my parents as an example. They had two children and were together for 9 years before they were officially married.

EDIT: Oh yeah, I forgot, you used to live with your girlfriend, didn't you Army? What's with the change of tune?

I do live with my girlfriend...
ARMY101
#43 Posted : Friday, June 03, 2011 6:39:15 PM
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mynameismattgotmlgo wrote:
Apparently. He'd ask them out on dates, they'd agree but then have second thoughts (understandably), and then not show up. Then he'd freak out on them. Repeat like ten times.

WTF are you talking about?
ktel
#44 Posted : Friday, June 03, 2011 6:46:54 PM
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Is it the same girlfriend? Or a new one?
ARMY101
#45 Posted : Friday, June 03, 2011 7:31:32 PM
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ktel wrote:
Is it the same girlfriend? Or a new one?

It's a different girlfriend than 2 years ago.
thecookiemonster
#46 Posted : Friday, June 03, 2011 7:38:13 PM
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mynameismattgotmlgo wrote:
If by "people" you mean "insecure teenage girls", then yes. And Stringer, if I recall correctly. For whatever reason... possibly to do a citizen's arrest or something gay like that.

Who is (was?) Stringer? I saw the name mentioned a lot on the old forum - a lot. I never saw them post tho. Anything like Army or what? :P
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willcreene
#47 Posted : Saturday, June 04, 2011 11:44:04 AM
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I don't like sluts, and lust is wrong. I think you should only have sex if you're going to commit. But marriage these days is just signing a bit of paper IMO. Sex should be special but marriage is not a real measure of anything unless you're religious - I say as long as you're committed, why not? :)
Kirenne
#48 Posted : Saturday, June 04, 2011 12:52:42 PM
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I think it should mean something, but it doesn't have to be after marriage.
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Zion
#49 Posted : Saturday, June 04, 2011 1:48:49 PM
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willcreene wrote:
lust is wrong

So finding someone physically attractive (being human) is wrong?
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ARMY101
#50 Posted : Saturday, June 04, 2011 4:06:51 PM
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Zion wrote:
willcreene wrote:
lust is wrong

So finding someone physically attractive (being human) is wrong?

Lust is a purely selfish lack of the ability to control your sexual emotions.
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#51 Posted : Saturday, June 04, 2011 4:27:57 PM
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mynameismattgotmlgo wrote:
Army is going to get destroyed by the defence when he presents evidence like that in court.


Who in their right mind would let Army represent them in court?

Hell, why are we giving a forum troll the respect of a future lawyer? I highly doubt he actually completed his undergraduate degree, let alone got into law school.
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Kirenne
#52 Posted : Saturday, June 04, 2011 4:58:01 PM
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Why is it that every little question on forums ends up in a heated debate?
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littleroom
#53 Posted : Saturday, June 04, 2011 7:10:46 PM
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willcreene wrote:
I don't like sluts, and lust is wrong.

Being sexually attracted to someone, and having that person attracted to you, and, well, getting down to business, is a responsible way of going about a very basic human need. I don't see what's so wrong about it (as long as it's safe and mutual). Too many people seem to feel that it's morally reprehensible to say that sex can function as a normal part of your life. It's not that you're either an STD-infested slut or a sexless saint. As Stephen Fry put it (I'm paraphrasing), "The only people obsessed with food are the anorexic and the obese. Replace food with sex, the obese with the sex-obsessed, the anorexic with the sexless saints, and the point remains: moderation is key."

willcreene wrote:
marriage is not a real measure of anything unless you're religious

Yes, because atheists and agnostics get married willy-nilly and don't see marriage as anything more than just being a signature on a piece of paper.
Zion
#54 Posted : Saturday, June 04, 2011 7:27:21 PM
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ARMY101 wrote:
Zion wrote:
willcreene wrote:
lust is wrong

So finding someone physically attractive (being human) is wrong?

Lust is a purely selfish lack of the ability to control your sexual emotions.

Lust is perfectly natural; there's just a stigma that it's immoral. Emotions aren't always as abhorrent as they're made out to be. Thinking you can (and should) repeatedly suppress them is pretentious and naive. They're as integral to life as reason.
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SUMmer123456
#55 Posted : Sunday, June 05, 2011 9:53:34 PM
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Kirenne wrote:
Why is it that every little question on forums ends up in a heated debate?


Because people on here need to get laid.
ktel
#56 Posted : Monday, June 06, 2011 1:01:24 AM
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willcreene wrote:
marriage is not a real measure of anything unless you're religious


Marriage is mostly a legal contract. Especially with our separation of church and state
mynameismattgotmlgo
#57 Posted : Monday, June 06, 2011 12:33:24 PM
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thecookiemonster wrote:
mynameismattgotmlgo wrote:
If by "people" you mean "insecure teenage girls", then yes. And Stringer, if I recall correctly. For whatever reason... possibly to do a citizen's arrest or something gay like that.

Who is (was?) Stringer? I saw the name mentioned a lot on the old forum - a lot. I never saw them post tho. Anything like Army or what? :P


No, no. Stringer was the polar opposite of Army.
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mynameismattgotmlgo
#58 Posted : Monday, June 06, 2011 12:34:02 PM
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ARMY101 wrote:
mynameismattgotmlgo wrote:
Apparently. He'd ask them out on dates, they'd agree but then have second thoughts (understandably), and then not show up. Then he'd freak out on them. Repeat like ten times.

WTF are you talking about?


Just saying what I've heard.
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#59 Posted : Monday, June 06, 2011 3:02:51 PM
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ARMY101 wrote:
Zion wrote:
willcreene wrote:
lust is wrong

So finding someone physically attractive (being human) is wrong?

Lust is a purely selfish lack of the ability to control your sexual emotions.

Says who? your 2000 year old Jewish zombie fiction thriller? Lust has a very good (evolutionary) reason for being. Guiding your relationship decisions based soley on lust can be considered naive, but that about it. There is nothing inherently 'wrong' with lust.
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braveandblue
#60 Posted : Monday, June 06, 2011 11:57:14 PM
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I think it's time to drag the thread back on topic .......

I lost it when I was 18, meh. I was dating my boyfriend for a while, we were both ready, and ... mhm. It's not like it's a sinful sinister sin of evilness casted by Lucifer himself upon all damned people on earth. It's also not the most proud thing you can do as a teenager.

But in my opinion, as long as you are ready, prepared, and confident then go with it. Don't let other people judge you and don't judge others - trust me, I know. I grew up in a very conservative (small 'c') Chinese family ...... yup.
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