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Hey guys, I just wanted to know that which university would be good to apply for aerospace engineering? since on the ouac a min of 3 unis needed to be applied so does anyone have any recommendations for 3 unis for aerospace in Ontario?
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There are only three that offer it.
University of Toronto - Engineering Science
Carleton University - Aerospace Engineering
Ryerson University - Aerospace Engineering
That's your three right there.
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^ What he said. RMC is a great school to go to for engineering if you're interested in the military at all.
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ktel wrote:^ What he said. RMC is a great school to go to for engineering if you're interested in the military at all. NO. Do not do this. If you get the army to pay for your school, they'll do it - but you'll need to give them 2 years for every year they pay for. It's guaranteed work, sure, but it's forced guaranteed work. Friend of mine resorted to doing this. Was taking Philosophy at U of T. Couldn't afford it, took a year off because of health stuff, joined the military and they said they'd do it in exchange for 2 years per 1 year at school. Only do this as a last resort. Ryerson has a fine aerospace program.
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rightsaidfred wrote:ktel wrote:^ What he said. RMC is a great school to go to for engineering if you're interested in the military at all. NO. Do not do this. If you get the army to pay for your school, they'll do it - but you'll need to give them 2 years for every year they pay for. It's guaranteed work, sure, but it's forced guaranteed work. Friend of mine resorted to doing this. Was taking Philosophy at U of T. Couldn't afford it, took a year off because of health stuff, joined the military and they said they'd do it in exchange for 2 years per 1 year at school. Only do this as a last resort. Ryerson has a fine aerospace program. I hope you realize some people actually WANT to be in the military, not saying OP does but you make it seem like going to RMC ruins your life or something lol Waterloo Mechanical Engineering '17
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Joining the army really does ruin your life.
All I said was exactly what you said - unless you WANT to join the army, the idea of having your school paid for is bad. If you just want free education, you won't get it - they pay, and you HAVE to give them something back.
If you want that and don't mind being in the army, then by all means, go for it.
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Weird how every male in my family has been in the army, yet not one of them seems to have had their life ruined by it. Yes, unless you WANT to join the army, don't go to RMC, but your post made it seem like you already assumed that the OP doesn't want to join or has no interest of joining the army, which is the only thing I saw wrong with your post Waterloo Mechanical Engineering '17
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>Weird how every male in my family has been in the army, yet not one of them seems to have had their life ruined by it.
Joining the army is a death sentence. By definition. Death ruins your life. By definition.
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Too bad none of them died, and there are many people who join the army and don't die. That's for the people who are willing to die for whatever cause to decide, not you. Waterloo Mechanical Engineering '17
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> and there are many people who join the army and don't die.
That does not have anything to do with the fact, nor change the fact, that every single person in the army (including cooks and toilet cleaners) can be called on to fight a war and put their lives on the line if they are told to.
Army is a death wish by definition.
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Yes, but why would you join the army if you weren't willing to take the risks? No one is asking you to join the army (except a recruiter) and you have every right to say no, so why do you make it seem like it's such a bad idea to want to join the army? Everyone who joins the army knows there's the risk of dying, but they do it anyways willingly, so why are you condemning their choices? Waterloo Mechanical Engineering '17
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I wasn't condemning their choices. I was just saying it was a death wish. :)
For the OP, I told him it was a bad idea UNLESS he WANTED to.
So I dunno what you're arguing me about.
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No, you only told OP it was a bad idea, no "unless", just "NO. Dont do this" Waterloo Mechanical Engineering '17
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You are wrong. The proof of why you are wrong is left as an exercise to the reader.
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rightsaidfred, I'm guessing that you assume everyone in the military goes over to war-torn countries and shoot people and get shot by members of radical militant groups? It's pretty clear that you have no idea what you're talking about, so it'd be best if you didn't say anything.
The RMC is a great school. The military isn't all bad (ask ARMY 101).
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rightsaidfred, you sound incredibly ignorant. I know many people in the air force, and while it is possible to get called to war, they spend a lot of their time on less dangerous deployments to Europe or the US. RMC is a GREAT option if you can't afford your education. Yes you have to give a few years of service afterwards, but you get your university paid for and then you're guaranteed a job afterwards. Plus if you want to be an astronaut and are male, you should probably go to RMC and learn how to fly a plane and be an engineer.
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Here are some bios of some current astronaut candidates: http://www.asc-csa.gc.ca...uitment/biographies.asp
A lot of them have pilot's licences, several are in the military as pilots, many went to RMC. A recent documentary I watched showcasing pilot training in Cold Lake consisted almost completely of RMC grads. This gives you some info on being a pilot in the military: http://www.forces.ca/en/job/pilot-32
I don't think RMC specifically has an air force training program, you would go to RMC, and then separately apply for the air force. To the OP, keep in mind UTIAS is for grad school only.
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ktel wrote:rightsaidfred, you sound incredibly ignorant. I know many people in the air force, and while it is possible to get called to war, they spend a lot of their time on less dangerous deployments to Europe or the US. RMC is a GREAT option if you can't afford your education. Yes you have to give a few years of service afterwards, but you get your university paid for and then you're guaranteed a job afterwards. Plus if you want to be an astronaut and are male, you should probably go to RMC and learn how to fly a plane and be an engineer. 1. I speak from experience or because I talk to people who have experience. 2. My arguments are all sound and logical. Joining the army is a death wish. Just because not everybody does dangerous missions does not change the fact that when you join the army, you are putting your life on the line if necessary. I don't see what's so hard to understand here. You have to sign a contract saying this. 3. "A few years" is 2 years of service for every 1 year of school paid. 4. There are no more astronauts. Canada has no space industry, and NASA's entire shuttle fleet has been retired. Obama also cut NASA's funding. If you want to be an astronaut, your best bet is to build a time machine and travel back in time to 1969.
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Rank: Frosh
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rightsaidfred wrote:ktel wrote:rightsaidfred, you sound incredibly ignorant. I know many people in the air force, and while it is possible to get called to war, they spend a lot of their time on less dangerous deployments to Europe or the US. RMC is a GREAT option if you can't afford your education. Yes you have to give a few years of service afterwards, but you get your university paid for and then you're guaranteed a job afterwards. Plus if you want to be an astronaut and are male, you should probably go to RMC and learn how to fly a plane and be an engineer. 1. I speak from experience or because I talk to people who have experience. 2. My arguments are all sound and logical. Joining the army is a death wish. Just because not everybody does dangerous missions does not change the fact that when you join the army, you are putting your life on the line if necessary. I don't see what's so hard to understand here. You have to sign a contract saying this. 3. "A few years" is 2 years of service for every 1 year of school paid. 4. There are no more astronauts. Canada has no space industry, and NASA's entire shuttle fleet has been retired. Obama also cut NASA's funding. If you want to be an astronaut, your best bet is to build a time machine and travel back in time to 1969. 1. What makes your people any more correct than the people anyone else talks to? And even if they are, does that mean that their opinions are correct for every single person in the army? 2. Agreeing to potentially put your life on the line is NOT the same as having a death wish. Again, you're generalising what you've heard from a few people to apply to the entire army, which is ridiculous. 4. There are still astronauts. Through NASA, through other space agencies, and now private companies. On this one you're just wrong.
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rightsaidfred wrote:ktel wrote:rightsaidfred, you sound incredibly ignorant. I know many people in the air force, and while it is possible to get called to war, they spend a lot of their time on less dangerous deployments to Europe or the US. RMC is a GREAT option if you can't afford your education. Yes you have to give a few years of service afterwards, but you get your university paid for and then you're guaranteed a job afterwards. Plus if you want to be an astronaut and are male, you should probably go to RMC and learn how to fly a plane and be an engineer. 1. I speak from experience or because I talk to people who have experience. 2. My arguments are all sound and logical. Joining the army is a death wish. Just because not everybody does dangerous missions does not change the fact that when you join the army, you are putting your life on the line if necessary. I don't see what's so hard to understand here. You have to sign a contract saying this. 3. "A few years" is 2 years of service for every 1 year of school paid. 4. There are no more astronauts. Canada has no space industry, and NASA's entire shuttle fleet has been retired. Obama also cut NASA's funding. If you want to be an astronaut, your best bet is to build a time machine and travel back in time to 1969. You literally have no clue what you're talking about. 1. And my experience with people in the military means nothing? 2. Yes, you are agreeing to go to war if necessary. I agree with this, but wouldn't phrase it as a "death wish" 3. "A few years" is 2 months service for every 1 month subsidized schooling. So not quite 2 years per 1 year, but close. It would work out to 5 years of service for a 4 year degree 4. There is still an International Space Station, there are still astronauts going there (via the Russians), space exploration is not finished.
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