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Why Rotman Commerce has such a low reputation? Options
jasonty9
#1 Posted : Monday, April 16, 2012 12:16:11 AM
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Do you think it is because a lot of new immigrants apply there and because their English is not fluent, they become less competitive when applying for jobs?
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Augustus1
#2 Posted : Monday, April 16, 2012 1:38:06 PM
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That is exactly why. Not the fact that they're immigrants or not, it's just a matter of English proficiency. If there are two applicants who are identical on paper, why would the firm hire the one who can't speak a full sentence of English when the other applicant is fluent?

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AgriGen
#3 Posted : Monday, April 16, 2012 1:54:51 PM
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What year did you guys graduate from rotmans?
iliketurtles
#4 Posted : Monday, April 16, 2012 7:27:55 PM
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Augustus1 wrote:
That is exactly why. Not the fact that they're immigrants or not, it's just a matter of English proficiency. If there are two applicants who are identical on paper, why would the firm hire the one who can't speak a full sentence of English when the other applicant is fluent?

What proof do you have? While I'm sure it contributes, I hardly doubt "that is exactly why". Why does Waterloo have such good placements than when it is universally considered an "Asian" school (hence, implying there's a lot of immigrants/people no good engrish there). I'd say it's more because of the faculty's lack of funding into the career centre, which is essentially what gets kids interviews and placements. Just my best guess.
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MINTOK
#5 Posted : Tuesday, April 17, 2012 8:09:54 AM
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iliketurtles wrote:
Augustus1 wrote:
That is exactly why. Not the fact that they're immigrants or not, it's just a matter of English proficiency. If there are two applicants who are identical on paper, why would the firm hire the one who can't speak a full sentence of English when the other applicant is fluent?

What proof do you have? While I'm sure it contributes, I hardly doubt "that is exactly why". Why does Waterloo have such good placements than when it is universally considered an "Asian" school (hence, implying there's a lot of immigrants/people no good engrish there). I'd say it's more because of the faculty's lack of funding into the career centre, which is essentially what gets kids interviews and placements. Just my best guess.

You're right, I haven't heard any great things about their career center from current students. What they also don't like is that the program has such a big pool of international students who actually barely speak English and cannot write an exam without a translator. Those two factors, combined with the jump in tuition costs in second year to $13 K doesn't make it a desired destination for many students.
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