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SkylarNoeL wrote:TheReem wrote:My manager told me, he specifically hired me because I go to Queen's. Best part? He's a Laurier grad, and the position has traditionally been held by a Laurier co-op student. What kind of a conclusion are we supposed to draw from that? What a pointless anecdote. SO YOU'RE TELLING ME... a position that used to be held by a Laurier student... is now occupied by a QUEEN'S STUDENT NOW?! How incredibly significant! I didn't know that temporary jobs held by a co-op student from one school could possibly change to become occupied by a student from another school. Are you sure this is even possible?! +1 Where you went to school is irrelevant. It's what you did in school that matters. UW/WLU DD '15
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so much heat in this discussion lol.. anyways the answer to this topic should be to just go to the university where you feel most comfortable in. I am sure you've heard this more than a thousand times so i am not even going to bother explaining why. However one thing i want to say is that tuition fees and other expenses should not be a reason to stop anyone from going to a certain university. the next four years of your life is going to engineer change and facilitate your journey into adulthood. university plays a major role, and this experience will most likely be one of the the most valuable experience and time in everyone's lives. therefore i believe people should make the best out of it. you should really think about the campus life, people you are going to meet, extra curriculars, and how much fun you are going to have. The time you are going to spend in university is far too valuable for money to be part of it. why do you think we have OSAP? bursaries? and scholarships? just remember, you can always pay back any debts~ think of it as investing for your future. go where you want for whatever reasons it may be~
p.s. its already past june 1st lol why am i even bothering to talk so much about choosing a university? xD Queen's University Bachelor of Commerce Class of 2016
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Queen's has an amazing campus. So.. as far as feeling "welcome", you'd probably be better there. Cliques and stuff though. Academics is harder. My sister graduated from there.
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To answer OP: If the finances will be difficult/impossible to cover, I think Laurier is the place to go. If the finances are doable I think go to the place that you feel you fit best at. Enjoy your 4 years of uni. Co-op is great and REALLY helps you get a job. On the other hand, the people I know who go to Queens are all incredibly intelligent,and seem to have great jobs for the upcoming summer. Best of luck, having such a difficult choice to make is a great position to be in. TheReem wrote:GoldenHawk wrote:mbijman45 wrote:Go with your gut on this one. Although Queens is always considered a top tier undergrad business program, it might not be for you. Laurier is honestly not off the map at all, it's still an exceptional program. Many successful people come out of Laurier and the same for Queen's. If you have the initiative, intelligence, hard working nature, and are personable, the opportunities are available to you at both school. Go where you feel is right for you, and that will lead to you being most comfortable and successful. Generally speaking, this will have more of an impact on your life/career than your choice in university. The name of the school on your resume won't take you anywhere. Name on the resume got me interviews at: ExxonMobil, ONCAP Private Equity, Manulife, Symcor, BMO, 2 of Big Pharmas. Unfortunately my interview skills weren't upto par for most of those interviews (which took place in fall), but I am currently employed very comfortably for the summer after 2nd year. ONCAP, Manulife, Symcore, and BMO all hire from WLU. (along with other oil & gas companies, not sure about pharma). So there's that. (When I met with some ONCAP people in the fall they said they only hired from Western and WLU. Guess they expanded their hiring this year) WLU/UW BBA/BCS 2015 Formerly noxx98
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Nick0rz wrote:To answer OP: If the finances will be difficult/impossible to cover, I think Laurier is the place to go. If the finances are doable I think go to the place that you feel you fit best at. Enjoy your 4 years of uni. Co-op is great and REALLY helps you get a job. On the other hand, the people I know who go to Queens are all incredibly intelligent,and seem to have great jobs for the upcoming summer. Best of luck, having such a difficult choice to make is a great position to be in. TheReem wrote:GoldenHawk wrote:mbijman45 wrote:Go with your gut on this one. Although Queens is always considered a top tier undergrad business program, it might not be for you. Laurier is honestly not off the map at all, it's still an exceptional program. Many successful people come out of Laurier and the same for Queen's. If you have the initiative, intelligence, hard working nature, and are personable, the opportunities are available to you at both school. Go where you feel is right for you, and that will lead to you being most comfortable and successful. Generally speaking, this will have more of an impact on your life/career than your choice in university. The name of the school on your resume won't take you anywhere. Name on the resume got me interviews at: ExxonMobil, ONCAP Private Equity, Manulife, Symcor, BMO, 2 of Big Pharmas. Unfortunately my interview skills weren't upto par for most of those interviews (which took place in fall), but I am currently employed very comfortably for the summer after 2nd year. ONCAP, Manulife, Symcore, and BMO all hire from WLU. (along with other oil & gas companies, not sure about pharma). So there's that. (When I met with some ONCAP people in the fall they said they only hired from Western and WLU. Guess they expanded their hiring this year) Half of ONCAP is Queen's, and there is only 1 associate from Laurier. The intern they hired for the summer this year is from Queen's. Queen's Commerce 2014 Major in Information Systems & Management Accounting
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but but queens haz only white ppl, and kingston is a hole Serious BusinessYork- African Studies --> RejectedNippissing- Commerece --> RejectedLaurentian- Communication --> RejectedAlgoma- Anishinaabemowin --> WaitingUofT- Engineering Science --> Waiting (Pleasee)
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TheReem wrote:Nick0rz wrote:To answer OP: If the finances will be difficult/impossible to cover, I think Laurier is the place to go. If the finances are doable I think go to the place that you feel you fit best at. Enjoy your 4 years of uni. Co-op is great and REALLY helps you get a job. On the other hand, the people I know who go to Queens are all incredibly intelligent,and seem to have great jobs for the upcoming summer. Best of luck, having such a difficult choice to make is a great position to be in. TheReem wrote:GoldenHawk wrote:mbijman45 wrote:Go with your gut on this one. Although Queens is always considered a top tier undergrad business program, it might not be for you. Laurier is honestly not off the map at all, it's still an exceptional program. Many successful people come out of Laurier and the same for Queen's. If you have the initiative, intelligence, hard working nature, and are personable, the opportunities are available to you at both school. Go where you feel is right for you, and that will lead to you being most comfortable and successful. Generally speaking, this will have more of an impact on your life/career than your choice in university. The name of the school on your resume won't take you anywhere. Name on the resume got me interviews at: ExxonMobil, ONCAP Private Equity, Manulife, Symcor, BMO, 2 of Big Pharmas. Unfortunately my interview skills weren't upto par for most of those interviews (which took place in fall), but I am currently employed very comfortably for the summer after 2nd year. ONCAP, Manulife, Symcore, and BMO all hire from WLU. (along with other oil & gas companies, not sure about pharma). So there's that. (When I met with some ONCAP people in the fall they said they only hired from Western and WLU. Guess they expanded their hiring this year) Half of ONCAP is Queen's, and there is only 1 associate from Laurier. The intern they hired for the summer this year is from Queen's. Sure, can't argue with that. As some potential reasons for the under representation of WLU in PE, I think you could look to the fact that WLU really hasn't had a huge footprint in finance until say 10 years ago (at most). Since PE'ers usually go into IB then transfer to PE, there simply isn't as many WLU'ers in the pool to draw from. In 10 years maybe that's different, or maybe it's still the same as it is today. ONCAP does hire 1-2 co-ops in both the Fall and Winter co-op terms. I don't think they hire in the summer because it's only 2nd year co-op students then. Big contrats on even getting an interview with them, they're always one of the most sought after jobs at WLU. EDIT: Slightly funny anecdote: The WLU associate at ONCAP applied to ONCAP during each of his co-op terms and never got an interview with them, but is now working there today haha. WLU/UW BBA/BCS 2015 Formerly noxx98
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Nick0rz wrote:TheReem wrote:Nick0rz wrote:To answer OP: If the finances will be difficult/impossible to cover, I think Laurier is the place to go. If the finances are doable I think go to the place that you feel you fit best at. Enjoy your 4 years of uni. Co-op is great and REALLY helps you get a job. On the other hand, the people I know who go to Queens are all incredibly intelligent,and seem to have great jobs for the upcoming summer. Best of luck, having such a difficult choice to make is a great position to be in. TheReem wrote:GoldenHawk wrote:mbijman45 wrote:Go with your gut on this one. Although Queens is always considered a top tier undergrad business program, it might not be for you. Laurier is honestly not off the map at all, it's still an exceptional program. Many successful people come out of Laurier and the same for Queen's. If you have the initiative, intelligence, hard working nature, and are personable, the opportunities are available to you at both school. Go where you feel is right for you, and that will lead to you being most comfortable and successful. Generally speaking, this will have more of an impact on your life/career than your choice in university. The name of the school on your resume won't take you anywhere. Name on the resume got me interviews at: ExxonMobil, ONCAP Private Equity, Manulife, Symcor, BMO, 2 of Big Pharmas. Unfortunately my interview skills weren't upto par for most of those interviews (which took place in fall), but I am currently employed very comfortably for the summer after 2nd year. ONCAP, Manulife, Symcore, and BMO all hire from WLU. (along with other oil & gas companies, not sure about pharma). So there's that. (When I met with some ONCAP people in the fall they said they only hired from Western and WLU. Guess they expanded their hiring this year) Half of ONCAP is Queen's, and there is only 1 associate from Laurier. The intern they hired for the summer this year is from Queen's. Sure, can't argue with that. As some potential reasons for the under representation of WLU in PE, I think you could look to the fact that WLU really hasn't had a huge footprint in finance until say 10 years ago (at most). Since PE'ers usually go into IB then transfer to PE, there simply isn't as many WLU'ers in the pool to draw from. In 10 years maybe that's different, or maybe it's still the same as it is today. ONCAP does hire 1-2 co-ops in both the Fall and Winter co-op terms. I don't think they hire in the summer because it's only 2nd year co-op students then. Big contrats on even getting an interview with them, they're always one of the most sought after jobs at WLU. EDIT: Slightly funny anecdote: The WLU associate at ONCAP applied to ONCAP during each of his co-op terms and never got an interview with them, but is now working there today haha. The intern they took for the summer from Queen's is in 2nd year, and I am aware of at least 5 2nd year students (incl. myself) who got interviewed by ONCAP for the position. Queen's Commerce 2014 Major in Information Systems & Management Accounting
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TheReem wrote:Nick0rz wrote:TheReem wrote:Nick0rz wrote:To answer OP: If the finances will be difficult/impossible to cover, I think Laurier is the place to go. If the finances are doable I think go to the place that you feel you fit best at. Enjoy your 4 years of uni. Co-op is great and REALLY helps you get a job. On the other hand, the people I know who go to Queens are all incredibly intelligent,and seem to have great jobs for the upcoming summer. Best of luck, having such a difficult choice to make is a great position to be in. TheReem wrote:GoldenHawk wrote:mbijman45 wrote:Go with your gut on this one. Although Queens is always considered a top tier undergrad business program, it might not be for you. Laurier is honestly not off the map at all, it's still an exceptional program. Many successful people come out of Laurier and the same for Queen's. If you have the initiative, intelligence, hard working nature, and are personable, the opportunities are available to you at both school. Go where you feel is right for you, and that will lead to you being most comfortable and successful. Generally speaking, this will have more of an impact on your life/career than your choice in university. The name of the school on your resume won't take you anywhere. Name on the resume got me interviews at: ExxonMobil, ONCAP Private Equity, Manulife, Symcor, BMO, 2 of Big Pharmas. Unfortunately my interview skills weren't upto par for most of those interviews (which took place in fall), but I am currently employed very comfortably for the summer after 2nd year. ONCAP, Manulife, Symcore, and BMO all hire from WLU. (along with other oil & gas companies, not sure about pharma). So there's that. (When I met with some ONCAP people in the fall they said they only hired from Western and WLU. Guess they expanded their hiring this year) Half of ONCAP is Queen's, and there is only 1 associate from Laurier. The intern they hired for the summer this year is from Queen's. Sure, can't argue with that. As some potential reasons for the under representation of WLU in PE, I think you could look to the fact that WLU really hasn't had a huge footprint in finance until say 10 years ago (at most). Since PE'ers usually go into IB then transfer to PE, there simply isn't as many WLU'ers in the pool to draw from. In 10 years maybe that's different, or maybe it's still the same as it is today. ONCAP does hire 1-2 co-ops in both the Fall and Winter co-op terms. I don't think they hire in the summer because it's only 2nd year co-op students then. Big contrats on even getting an interview with them, they're always one of the most sought after jobs at WLU. EDIT: Slightly funny anecdote: The WLU associate at ONCAP applied to ONCAP during each of his co-op terms and never got an interview with them, but is now working there today haha. The intern they took for the summer from Queen's is in 2nd year, and I am aware of at least 5 2nd year students (incl. myself) who got interviewed by ONCAP for the position. crap I should've went to QSB instead. Really regretting that decision. The sheer number of QSB second years that are interviewed by ONCAP serves as conclusive evidence that QSB is the best school in Canada bar none. UW/WLU DD '15
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GoldenHawk wrote:TheReem wrote:Nick0rz wrote:TheReem wrote:Nick0rz wrote:To answer OP: If the finances will be difficult/impossible to cover, I think Laurier is the place to go. If the finances are doable I think go to the place that you feel you fit best at. Enjoy your 4 years of uni. Co-op is great and REALLY helps you get a job. On the other hand, the people I know who go to Queens are all incredibly intelligent,and seem to have great jobs for the upcoming summer. Best of luck, having such a difficult choice to make is a great position to be in. TheReem wrote:GoldenHawk wrote:mbijman45 wrote:Go with your gut on this one. Although Queens is always considered a top tier undergrad business program, it might not be for you. Laurier is honestly not off the map at all, it's still an exceptional program. Many successful people come out of Laurier and the same for Queen's. If you have the initiative, intelligence, hard working nature, and are personable, the opportunities are available to you at both school. Go where you feel is right for you, and that will lead to you being most comfortable and successful. Generally speaking, this will have more of an impact on your life/career than your choice in university. The name of the school on your resume won't take you anywhere. Name on the resume got me interviews at: ExxonMobil, ONCAP Private Equity, Manulife, Symcor, BMO, 2 of Big Pharmas. Unfortunately my interview skills weren't upto par for most of those interviews (which took place in fall), but I am currently employed very comfortably for the summer after 2nd year. ONCAP, Manulife, Symcore, and BMO all hire from WLU. (along with other oil & gas companies, not sure about pharma). So there's that. (When I met with some ONCAP people in the fall they said they only hired from Western and WLU. Guess they expanded their hiring this year) Half of ONCAP is Queen's, and there is only 1 associate from Laurier. The intern they hired for the summer this year is from Queen's. Sure, can't argue with that. As some potential reasons for the under representation of WLU in PE, I think you could look to the fact that WLU really hasn't had a huge footprint in finance until say 10 years ago (at most). Since PE'ers usually go into IB then transfer to PE, there simply isn't as many WLU'ers in the pool to draw from. In 10 years maybe that's different, or maybe it's still the same as it is today. ONCAP does hire 1-2 co-ops in both the Fall and Winter co-op terms. I don't think they hire in the summer because it's only 2nd year co-op students then. Big contrats on even getting an interview with them, they're always one of the most sought after jobs at WLU. EDIT: Slightly funny anecdote: The WLU associate at ONCAP applied to ONCAP during each of his co-op terms and never got an interview with them, but is now working there today haha. The intern they took for the summer from Queen's is in 2nd year, and I am aware of at least 5 2nd year students (incl. myself) who got interviewed by ONCAP for the position. crap I should've went to QSB instead. Really regretting that decision. The sheer number of QSB second years that are interviewed by ONCAP serves as conclusive evidence that QSB is the best school in Canada bar none. I think you're being too subtle. This will probably fly right over his chin.
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GoldenHawk wrote:TheReem wrote:Nick0rz wrote:TheReem wrote:Nick0rz wrote:To answer OP: If the finances will be difficult/impossible to cover, I think Laurier is the place to go. If the finances are doable I think go to the place that you feel you fit best at. Enjoy your 4 years of uni. Co-op is great and REALLY helps you get a job. On the other hand, the people I know who go to Queens are all incredibly intelligent,and seem to have great jobs for the upcoming summer. Best of luck, having such a difficult choice to make is a great position to be in. TheReem wrote:GoldenHawk wrote:mbijman45 wrote:Go with your gut on this one. Although Queens is always considered a top tier undergrad business program, it might not be for you. Laurier is honestly not off the map at all, it's still an exceptional program. Many successful people come out of Laurier and the same for Queen's. If you have the initiative, intelligence, hard working nature, and are personable, the opportunities are available to you at both school. Go where you feel is right for you, and that will lead to you being most comfortable and successful. Generally speaking, this will have more of an impact on your life/career than your choice in university. The name of the school on your resume won't take you anywhere. Name on the resume got me interviews at: ExxonMobil, ONCAP Private Equity, Manulife, Symcor, BMO, 2 of Big Pharmas. Unfortunately my interview skills weren't upto par for most of those interviews (which took place in fall), but I am currently employed very comfortably for the summer after 2nd year. ONCAP, Manulife, Symcore, and BMO all hire from WLU. (along with other oil & gas companies, not sure about pharma). So there's that. (When I met with some ONCAP people in the fall they said they only hired from Western and WLU. Guess they expanded their hiring this year) Half of ONCAP is Queen's, and there is only 1 associate from Laurier. The intern they hired for the summer this year is from Queen's. Sure, can't argue with that. As some potential reasons for the under representation of WLU in PE, I think you could look to the fact that WLU really hasn't had a huge footprint in finance until say 10 years ago (at most). Since PE'ers usually go into IB then transfer to PE, there simply isn't as many WLU'ers in the pool to draw from. In 10 years maybe that's different, or maybe it's still the same as it is today. ONCAP does hire 1-2 co-ops in both the Fall and Winter co-op terms. I don't think they hire in the summer because it's only 2nd year co-op students then. Big contrats on even getting an interview with them, they're always one of the most sought after jobs at WLU. EDIT: Slightly funny anecdote: The WLU associate at ONCAP applied to ONCAP during each of his co-op terms and never got an interview with them, but is now working there today haha. The intern they took for the summer from Queen's is in 2nd year, and I am aware of at least 5 2nd year students (incl. myself) who got interviewed by ONCAP for the position. crap I should've went to QSB instead. Really regretting that decision. The sheer number of QSB second years that are interviewed by ONCAP serves as conclusive evidence that QSB is the best school in Canada bar none. U Mad? I pointed out a number of flaw in your Laurier friend's argument 1. Queen's has more representation than Laurier in ONCAP 2. ONCAP, in fact, interviews and hires 2nd years. You don't need to lace your post with sarcasm to cover your envy. I can go on and on with the psychology behind sarcasm, but I think your post is evidence enough, because everything you said, is in fact, correct. Queen's Commerce 2014 Major in Information Systems & Management Accounting
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TheReem wrote:GoldenHawk wrote:TheReem wrote:Nick0rz wrote:TheReem wrote:Nick0rz wrote:To answer OP: If the finances will be difficult/impossible to cover, I think Laurier is the place to go. If the finances are doable I think go to the place that you feel you fit best at. Enjoy your 4 years of uni. Co-op is great and REALLY helps you get a job. On the other hand, the people I know who go to Queens are all incredibly intelligent,and seem to have great jobs for the upcoming summer. Best of luck, having such a difficult choice to make is a great position to be in. TheReem wrote:GoldenHawk wrote:mbijman45 wrote:Go with your gut on this one. Although Queens is always considered a top tier undergrad business program, it might not be for you. Laurier is honestly not off the map at all, it's still an exceptional program. Many successful people come out of Laurier and the same for Queen's. If you have the initiative, intelligence, hard working nature, and are personable, the opportunities are available to you at both school. Go where you feel is right for you, and that will lead to you being most comfortable and successful. Generally speaking, this will have more of an impact on your life/career than your choice in university. The name of the school on your resume won't take you anywhere. Name on the resume got me interviews at: ExxonMobil, ONCAP Private Equity, Manulife, Symcor, BMO, 2 of Big Pharmas. Unfortunately my interview skills weren't upto par for most of those interviews (which took place in fall), but I am currently employed very comfortably for the summer after 2nd year. ONCAP, Manulife, Symcore, and BMO all hire from WLU. (along with other oil & gas companies, not sure about pharma). So there's that. (When I met with some ONCAP people in the fall they said they only hired from Western and WLU. Guess they expanded their hiring this year) Half of ONCAP is Queen's, and there is only 1 associate from Laurier. The intern they hired for the summer this year is from Queen's. Sure, can't argue with that. As some potential reasons for the under representation of WLU in PE, I think you could look to the fact that WLU really hasn't had a huge footprint in finance until say 10 years ago (at most). Since PE'ers usually go into IB then transfer to PE, there simply isn't as many WLU'ers in the pool to draw from. In 10 years maybe that's different, or maybe it's still the same as it is today. ONCAP does hire 1-2 co-ops in both the Fall and Winter co-op terms. I don't think they hire in the summer because it's only 2nd year co-op students then. Big contrats on even getting an interview with them, they're always one of the most sought after jobs at WLU. EDIT: Slightly funny anecdote: The WLU associate at ONCAP applied to ONCAP during each of his co-op terms and never got an interview with them, but is now working there today haha. The intern they took for the summer from Queen's is in 2nd year, and I am aware of at least 5 2nd year students (incl. myself) who got interviewed by ONCAP for the position. crap I should've went to QSB instead. Really regretting that decision. The sheer number of QSB second years that are interviewed by ONCAP serves as conclusive evidence that QSB is the best school in Canada bar none. U Mad? I pointed out a number of flaw in your Laurier friend's argument 1. Queen's has more representation than Laurier in ONCAP 2. ONCAP, in fact, interviews and hires 2nd years. You don't need to lace your post with sarcasm to cover your envy. I can go on and on with the psychology behind sarcasm, but I think your post is evidence enough, because everything you said, is in fact, correct. just looked on the QSB website to see if I could transfer in. I missed the deadline for this Fall but I'm going to try again next year. Even though I'm not interested in working for ONCAP (or anything remotely related to finance), QSB is the best option for me, as demonstrated by thereem. Here's the link for anyone else interested: http://www.queensu.ca/calendars/business/Admission_by_Transfer.htmlI have more than a B+ average and I've taken loads of calculus so I just need to maintain my average and ace the PSE. I hope I get in! UW/WLU DD '15
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GoldenHawk wrote:TheReem wrote:GoldenHawk wrote:TheReem wrote:Nick0rz wrote:TheReem wrote:Nick0rz wrote:To answer OP: If the finances will be difficult/impossible to cover, I think Laurier is the place to go. If the finances are doable I think go to the place that you feel you fit best at. Enjoy your 4 years of uni. Co-op is great and REALLY helps you get a job. On the other hand, the people I know who go to Queens are all incredibly intelligent,and seem to have great jobs for the upcoming summer. Best of luck, having such a difficult choice to make is a great position to be in. TheReem wrote:GoldenHawk wrote:mbijman45 wrote:Go with your gut on this one. Although Queens is always considered a top tier undergrad business program, it might not be for you. Laurier is honestly not off the map at all, it's still an exceptional program. Many successful people come out of Laurier and the same for Queen's. If you have the initiative, intelligence, hard working nature, and are personable, the opportunities are available to you at both school. Go where you feel is right for you, and that will lead to you being most comfortable and successful. Generally speaking, this will have more of an impact on your life/career than your choice in university. The name of the school on your resume won't take you anywhere. Name on the resume got me interviews at: ExxonMobil, ONCAP Private Equity, Manulife, Symcor, BMO, 2 of Big Pharmas. Unfortunately my interview skills weren't upto par for most of those interviews (which took place in fall), but I am currently employed very comfortably for the summer after 2nd year. ONCAP, Manulife, Symcore, and BMO all hire from WLU. (along with other oil & gas companies, not sure about pharma). So there's that. (When I met with some ONCAP people in the fall they said they only hired from Western and WLU. Guess they expanded their hiring this year) Half of ONCAP is Queen's, and there is only 1 associate from Laurier. The intern they hired for the summer this year is from Queen's. Sure, can't argue with that. As some potential reasons for the under representation of WLU in PE, I think you could look to the fact that WLU really hasn't had a huge footprint in finance until say 10 years ago (at most). Since PE'ers usually go into IB then transfer to PE, there simply isn't as many WLU'ers in the pool to draw from. In 10 years maybe that's different, or maybe it's still the same as it is today. ONCAP does hire 1-2 co-ops in both the Fall and Winter co-op terms. I don't think they hire in the summer because it's only 2nd year co-op students then. Big contrats on even getting an interview with them, they're always one of the most sought after jobs at WLU. EDIT: Slightly funny anecdote: The WLU associate at ONCAP applied to ONCAP during each of his co-op terms and never got an interview with them, but is now working there today haha. The intern they took for the summer from Queen's is in 2nd year, and I am aware of at least 5 2nd year students (incl. myself) who got interviewed by ONCAP for the position. crap I should've went to QSB instead. Really regretting that decision. The sheer number of QSB second years that are interviewed by ONCAP serves as conclusive evidence that QSB is the best school in Canada bar none. U Mad? I pointed out a number of flaw in your Laurier friend's argument 1. Queen's has more representation than Laurier in ONCAP 2. ONCAP, in fact, interviews and hires 2nd years. You don't need to lace your post with sarcasm to cover your envy. I can go on and on with the psychology behind sarcasm, but I think your post is evidence enough, because everything you said, is in fact, correct. just looked on the QSB website to see if I could transfer in. I missed the deadline for this Fall but I'm going to try again next year. Even though I'm not interested in working for ONCAP (or anything remotely related to finance), QSB is the best option for me, as demonstrated by thereem. Here's the link for anyone else interested: http://www.queensu.ca/calendars/business/Admission_by_Transfer.htmlI have more than a B+ average and I've taken loads of calculus so I just need to maintain my average and ace the PSE. I hope I get in! Good luck GoldenHawk! lol jokesReem didn't you make a post a while ago about how you wished that you went into a co-op program such as waterloo or laurier instead of queens? Laurier BBA/BA - Class of 2017
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GoldenHawk wrote:TheReem wrote:GoldenHawk wrote:TheReem wrote:Nick0rz wrote:TheReem wrote:Nick0rz wrote:To answer OP: If the finances will be difficult/impossible to cover, I think Laurier is the place to go. If the finances are doable I think go to the place that you feel you fit best at. Enjoy your 4 years of uni. Co-op is great and REALLY helps you get a job. On the other hand, the people I know who go to Queens are all incredibly intelligent,and seem to have great jobs for the upcoming summer. Best of luck, having such a difficult choice to make is a great position to be in. TheReem wrote:GoldenHawk wrote:mbijman45 wrote:Go with your gut on this one. Although Queens is always considered a top tier undergrad business program, it might not be for you. Laurier is honestly not off the map at all, it's still an exceptional program. Many successful people come out of Laurier and the same for Queen's. If you have the initiative, intelligence, hard working nature, and are personable, the opportunities are available to you at both school. Go where you feel is right for you, and that will lead to you being most comfortable and successful. Generally speaking, this will have more of an impact on your life/career than your choice in university. The name of the school on your resume won't take you anywhere. Name on the resume got me interviews at: ExxonMobil, ONCAP Private Equity, Manulife, Symcor, BMO, 2 of Big Pharmas. Unfortunately my interview skills weren't upto par for most of those interviews (which took place in fall), but I am currently employed very comfortably for the summer after 2nd year. ONCAP, Manulife, Symcore, and BMO all hire from WLU. (along with other oil & gas companies, not sure about pharma). So there's that. (When I met with some ONCAP people in the fall they said they only hired from Western and WLU. Guess they expanded their hiring this year) Half of ONCAP is Queen's, and there is only 1 associate from Laurier. The intern they hired for the summer this year is from Queen's. Sure, can't argue with that. As some potential reasons for the under representation of WLU in PE, I think you could look to the fact that WLU really hasn't had a huge footprint in finance until say 10 years ago (at most). Since PE'ers usually go into IB then transfer to PE, there simply isn't as many WLU'ers in the pool to draw from. In 10 years maybe that's different, or maybe it's still the same as it is today. ONCAP does hire 1-2 co-ops in both the Fall and Winter co-op terms. I don't think they hire in the summer because it's only 2nd year co-op students then. Big contrats on even getting an interview with them, they're always one of the most sought after jobs at WLU. EDIT: Slightly funny anecdote: The WLU associate at ONCAP applied to ONCAP during each of his co-op terms and never got an interview with them, but is now working there today haha. The intern they took for the summer from Queen's is in 2nd year, and I am aware of at least 5 2nd year students (incl. myself) who got interviewed by ONCAP for the position. crap I should've went to QSB instead. Really regretting that decision. The sheer number of QSB second years that are interviewed by ONCAP serves as conclusive evidence that QSB is the best school in Canada bar none. U Mad? I pointed out a number of flaw in your Laurier friend's argument 1. Queen's has more representation than Laurier in ONCAP 2. ONCAP, in fact, interviews and hires 2nd years. You don't need to lace your post with sarcasm to cover your envy. I can go on and on with the psychology behind sarcasm, but I think your post is evidence enough, because everything you said, is in fact, correct. just looked on the QSB website to see if I could transfer in. I missed the deadline for this Fall but I'm going to try again next year. Even though I'm not interested in working for ONCAP (or anything remotely related to finance), QSB is the best option for me, as demonstrated by thereem. Here's the link for anyone else interested: http://www.queensu.ca/calendars/business/Admission_by_Transfer.htmlI have more than a B+ average and I've taken loads of calculus so I just need to maintain my average and ace the PSE. I hope I get in! Goldenhawk, why the heck would you want to transfer to Queen's? Seriously, congrats for making it into a great program but you're fine with where you are. Keep your head down, study hard, stay aggressive and you'll be fine. Queen's School of Business, Class of 2015
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lol Queen's Commerce 2014 Major in Information Systems & Management Accounting
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TheReem wrote:GoldenHawk wrote:TheReem wrote:Nick0rz wrote:TheReem wrote:Nick0rz wrote:To answer OP: If the finances will be difficult/impossible to cover, I think Laurier is the place to go. If the finances are doable I think go to the place that you feel you fit best at. Enjoy your 4 years of uni. Co-op is great and REALLY helps you get a job. On the other hand, the people I know who go to Queens are all incredibly intelligent,and seem to have great jobs for the upcoming summer. Best of luck, having such a difficult choice to make is a great position to be in. TheReem wrote:GoldenHawk wrote:mbijman45 wrote:Go with your gut on this one. Although Queens is always considered a top tier undergrad business program, it might not be for you. Laurier is honestly not off the map at all, it's still an exceptional program. Many successful people come out of Laurier and the same for Queen's. If you have the initiative, intelligence, hard working nature, and are personable, the opportunities are available to you at both school. Go where you feel is right for you, and that will lead to you being most comfortable and successful. Generally speaking, this will have more of an impact on your life/career than your choice in university. The name of the school on your resume won't take you anywhere. Name on the resume got me interviews at: ExxonMobil, ONCAP Private Equity, Manulife, Symcor, BMO, 2 of Big Pharmas. Unfortunately my interview skills weren't upto par for most of those interviews (which took place in fall), but I am currently employed very comfortably for the summer after 2nd year. ONCAP, Manulife, Symcore, and BMO all hire from WLU. (along with other oil & gas companies, not sure about pharma). So there's that. (When I met with some ONCAP people in the fall they said they only hired from Western and WLU. Guess they expanded their hiring this year) Half of ONCAP is Queen's, and there is only 1 associate from Laurier. The intern they hired for the summer this year is from Queen's. Sure, can't argue with that. As some potential reasons for the under representation of WLU in PE, I think you could look to the fact that WLU really hasn't had a huge footprint in finance until say 10 years ago (at most). Since PE'ers usually go into IB then transfer to PE, there simply isn't as many WLU'ers in the pool to draw from. In 10 years maybe that's different, or maybe it's still the same as it is today. ONCAP does hire 1-2 co-ops in both the Fall and Winter co-op terms. I don't think they hire in the summer because it's only 2nd year co-op students then. Big contrats on even getting an interview with them, they're always one of the most sought after jobs at WLU. EDIT: Slightly funny anecdote: The WLU associate at ONCAP applied to ONCAP during each of his co-op terms and never got an interview with them, but is now working there today haha. The intern they took for the summer from Queen's is in 2nd year, and I am aware of at least 5 2nd year students (incl. myself) who got interviewed by ONCAP for the position. crap I should've went to QSB instead. Really regretting that decision. The sheer number of QSB second years that are interviewed by ONCAP serves as conclusive evidence that QSB is the best school in Canada bar none. U Mad? I pointed out a number of flaw in your Laurier friend's argument 1. Queen's has more representation than Laurier in ONCAP 2. ONCAP, in fact, interviews and hires 2nd years. You don't need to lace your post with sarcasm to cover your envy. I can go on and on with the psychology behind sarcasm, but I think your post is evidence enough, because everything you said, is in fact, correct. Wait we were arguing? I will completely acknowledge that Queens is a great business school to be at. However simply using ONCAP as the defining factor is terrible. 1. Completely true. Can't argue with this fact at all. WLU did not really start gaining a footprint in finance until the 2000's. In 10 years maybe it's finance footprint is closer to the size of Ivey/Queens. 2. Hiring from WLU for the fall/winter and Queens in the summer allows them to get a mix of different students since they aren't able to hire from Queens for the fall/winter. Maybe they actually like Queens more, maybe they like WLU more DOES IT REALLY screwING MATTER? Honestly, this site sometimes is a piss off. EVERYTHING has to become a win/loss argument. Can we not acknowledge that universities are not a black and white issue, and need to be looked at in full colour? There is no obvious school X which is better then all the rest for every single student. WLU/UW BBA/BCS 2015 Formerly noxx98
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reason I went to Laurier BBA: so I do not have to listen to Queen's students talk about how great their school is to everyone else who does not give a f%^& Laurier School of Business and Economics: BBA/BSc Computing Class of 2016 Dub Degree 5
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This thread is completely useless. SA has gotten quite retarded with these types of debates. Go wherever you wanna be in. Period. scollyhunter wrote:reason I went to Laurier BBA: so I do not have to listen to Queen's students talk about how great their school is to everyone else who does not give a f%^& How do you know this? Of course students would speak highly of their own school...? Queen's University '16 Bachelor of Commerce Fall 2012 B.C. ApplicantUWO BMOS Finance + Richard Ivey AEO (Accepted) Ivey AEO Award of Excellence Scholarship $10,000 Queen's Commerce ( Chancellor's Nominee) (Accepted) University of Toronto Rotman, Trinity College (Accepted)
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scollyhunter wrote:reason I went to Laurier BBA: so I do not have to listen to Queen's students talk about how great their school is to everyone else who does not give a f%^& lmao~ queen's students don't need to rant about how great queens is. TheReem was only trying to make a point that university name does play some role when it comes to internships and recruiting. but then came all the comparisons & statistics & opinions and heated discussions. Queen's University Bachelor of Commerce Class of 2016
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