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Rank: Frosh  Joined: 12/24/2010 Posts: 11
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I am a "left moderate social libertarian".
It's nice to see some people so passionate about Canada. I feel like there's a lack of patriotism amongst Canadians.
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Rank: Valedictorian  Joined: 12/21/2010 Posts: 549
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ARMY101 wrote:I'm done with your stupid useless discussions Iansharer. We have won this argument 3 times now, and yet you still keep trying to say that the government enslaves people. That is a ridiculous argument against something that is a known fact. It'd be like trying to argue that the world is flat.
I'm done. You're wrong. Okay then, I guess you're right. After all, you can end the discussion whenever you want and claim that you're right and I'm wrong. I'd like to post one last video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLCEXtpTNYU
It sickens me that so many simply accept the government like sheep and do not look outside the box. I wasn't trying to troll or preach about some dangerous, radical idea, but oh well. Merry Christmas! Schulich School of Business
York University
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Rank: Student Body President  Joined: 12/20/2010 Posts: 1,572
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IanSharer wrote:ARMY101 wrote:I'm done with your stupid useless discussions Iansharer. We have won this argument 3 times now, and yet you still keep trying to say that the government enslaves people. That is a ridiculous argument against something that is a known fact. It'd be like trying to argue that the world is flat.
I'm done. You're wrong. Okay then, I guess you're right. After all, you can end the discussion whenever you want and claim that you're right and I'm wrong. I'd like to post one last video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLCEXtpTNYU
It sickens me that so many simply accept the government like sheep and do not look outside the box. I wasn't trying to troll or preach about some dangerous, radical idea, but oh well. Merry Christmas! People accept the government because the government is a reality in today's society, and government will always play the largest aspect in running the country and providing services. You're debating something that everyone except a very small minority accept as reality. You're not questioning how much government is acceptable (which is still a very big question), you're saying government should not exist at all. That is not a responsible or realistic position to take. Anarchy will never work, nor should it ever be a position to take on government issues.
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Rank: Student Body President Joined: 12/20/2010 Posts: 1,572
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Now, back on topic :) What else does everyone think about their political views?
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Rank: Valedictorian Joined: 12/21/2010 Posts: 549
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I know you "ended" our discussion but... ARMY101 wrote:People accept the government because the government is a reality in today's society, and government will always play the largest aspect in running the country and providing services. Governments haven't always existed and I'm confident that there will be a change. Maybe not within my lifetime, but we are ever evolving. ARMY101 wrote:You're debating something that everyone except a very small minority accept as reality. You're not questioning how much government is acceptable (which is still a very big question), you're saying government should not exist at all. That is not a responsible or realistic position to take. Anarchy will never work, nor should it ever be a position to take on government issues. Anarchy doesn't mean "no rules" but rather "no rulers". Just wondering, did you get a change to read this: mises.org/rothbard/newlibertywhole.asp (Skip to Chapter 12) Schulich School of Business
York University
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Rank: Student Body President Joined: 12/20/2010 Posts: 1,572
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IanSharer wrote:Governments haven't always existed and I'm confident that there will be a change. Maybe not within my lifetime, but we are ever evolving. Actually yes, the notion of government has always existed, basically from cavemen eras. Government is just a central "leader" that makes decisions for the group. That can mean a king, a tribal leader, or a president. ARMY101 wrote:Anarchy doesn't mean "no rules" but rather "no rulers". And who will enforce those rules? If everyone is living without a ruler and they don't have the threat of punishment behind them, they have no incentive to follow the rules.
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Rank: Valedictorian Joined: 12/21/2010 Posts: 549
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ARMY101 wrote:Actually yes, the notion of government has always existed, basically from cavemen eras. Government is just a central "leader" that makes decisions for the group. That can mean a king, a tribal leader, or a president. A central leader is different from a government in that they do not incorporate coercion. I relate tribal leaders to owners of a private business. Kings, on the other hand, are pretty much the same as modern day governments. This site, for example, is a private company with an owner and moderators who enforce the rules. Such will always exist, however they do not incorporate coercion. ARMY101 wrote:And who will enforce those rules? If everyone is living without a ruler and they don't have the threat of punishment behind them, they have no incentive to follow the rules. Did you have a chance to read that chapter I posted? I'm sure it'll answer a lot of your questions. Schulich School of Business
York University
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Rank: Frosh
Joined: 12/29/2010
Posts: 5
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I am a center-left social moderate
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