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I live in the GTA so UTSC is only a 30 min bus ride away and my parents expect me to go there and study from home. I actually did my coop there in grade 11 and continue to volunteer there in a research lab. I definitely know I'm not going into research but the people there are awesome and I'm thankful for the experience. I've asked my supervisors and they say that UTSC has a limited amount of courses which is a problem since I'm not sure of what to do. The campus is pretty depressing. I also heard that UofT students have a harder time getting a higher GPA, but opinions vary. Some of my general interests are in healthcare, business, history, and media, but I'm sure that will change once I'm actually in university. I'm kind of iffy about missing the whole staying in residence experience as well if I go to UTSC. What universities have a variety of programs that are reputable but also have a good social scene? I come from a low-income family so scholarships are important. My grades hover around low 90s to high 80s. I really want those four years to be enjoyable  I was looking into Western, Laurier, Queens, and York. (Laurier and York are a hour and a half commute but I don't think OSAP will increase my living expenses since I live within 40 km. That's going to be a pain). I know this is a difficult question but I'll be thankful for any advice. Ryerson(main site) Accepted Ryerson(Centennial) Accepted Ryerson(George Brown) Accepted UOIT Accepted McMaster Accepted
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If you live in the GTA I find it VERY hard to believe you are within 40km of Laurier. UW/WLU Math/Business DD - 2016 President - Double Degree Club
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Whoops, got it mixed up with one of their offices or something. Thanks for that. Ryerson(main site) Accepted Ryerson(Centennial) Accepted Ryerson(George Brown) Accepted UOIT Accepted McMaster Accepted
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York has an undeclared option for Arts and Sciences where you can take courses that interest you and only have to declare your major after first year. Queen's has the same, but you need to decide between either a BA or BSc. **Shields** Accepted: University of Toronto: Social Sciences + Vic One (Pearson Stream) Carleton University: Honours Science University of British Columbia: Arts
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LOL you are just like me! Same interests and grades. If you like healthcare and business, why don't you do Health Management or Health Policy at York? It's a combination of Health/Business or Health/Law :)
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Razear wrote:York has an undeclared option for Arts and Sciences where you can take courses that interest you and only have to declare your major after first year. Queen's has the same, but you need to decide between either a BA or BSc. Is it easy to change if you decide to do the other? Ryerson(main site) Accepted Ryerson(Centennial) Accepted Ryerson(George Brown) Accepted UOIT Accepted McMaster Accepted
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ElleTah wrote:LOL you are just like me! Same interests and grades. If you like healthcare and business, why don't you do Health Management or Health Policy at York? It's a combination of Health/Business or Health/Law :) I just wonder what everyone else is doing. Sounds interesting, but it's such a long commute for me! I don't know if it's worth it :/ Ryerson(main site) Accepted Ryerson(Centennial) Accepted Ryerson(George Brown) Accepted UOIT Accepted McMaster Accepted
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Skye12 wrote:Is it easy to change if you decide to do the other? At Queen's, Arts and Science are contained within the same faculty. Transferring between the two is not too difficult. Keep in mind there are more prerequisite courses for Science so if you are genuinely interested in both, I'd suggest going into Science because it's easier to switch to Arts than vice versa. **Shields** Accepted: University of Toronto: Social Sciences + Vic One (Pearson Stream) Carleton University: Honours Science University of British Columbia: Arts
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Razear wrote:Keep in mind there are more prerequisite courses for Science so if you are genuinely interested in both, I'd suggest going into Science because it's easier to switch to Arts than vice versa.
Thanks! May I ask what marks and ECs you had? I don't know if I even can get in. Ryerson(main site) Accepted Ryerson(Centennial) Accepted Ryerson(George Brown) Accepted UOIT Accepted McMaster Accepted
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Just to add to what Razear said, I'd definitely recommend going to a school with a general first year so that you can take a variety of courses and decide what you like best. I'm kind of in the same situation as you... I had a very hard time deciding between a BA or a BSc, but eventually decided on a BA. At this point I plan to major in politics and minor in biology, but that could definitely change because at Queen's you don't declare your program until the end of first year. Definitely look into what financial aid is available to you at each school, as well as how much it'll cost you for living expenses/tuition. Queen's has pretty good scholarship/bursary options, and their tuition is comparable to other schools. However, I'm pay a lot more for 1st year residence than a lot of my friends at other schools, and houses near Queen's are relatively expensive to rent. So that's something to take into consideration. Queen's Arts '16 Chancellor's Scholarship Recipient
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Knowing full well that everyone hates the person who says this, I'm just going to put it out there: why don't you take a gap year? If finances are an issue for you, its never a good idea to waste the money on school when you don't actually know what you're doing. If you take the year off, you can get some more work experience for money, and also take the time to figure out what you really want to do. If you do decide to go for just a general first year, I've heard of people taking good general arts programs at Trent, Queens, and Laurier, which are all very nice schools. For a general first year program, I think your marks will absolutely be able to get you in. I hope this helps! Applied to:
Carleton- BA Honours Communication with Co-op (Accepted) GOING! Wilfred Laurier- BA Honours Communication (Accepted) Trent- BA International Development Studies Accepted Sheridan- Performing Arts Preparation (Accepted)
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Skye12 wrote:I live in the GTA so UTSC is only a 30 min bus ride away and my parents expect me to go there and study from home. I actually did my coop there in grade 11 and continue to volunteer there in a research lab. I definitely know I'm not going into research but the people there are awesome and I'm thankful for the experience. I've asked my supervisors and they say that UTSC has a limited amount of courses which is a problem since I'm not sure of what to do. The campus is pretty depressing. I also heard that UofT students have a harder time getting a higher GPA, but opinions vary. Some of my general interests are in healthcare, business, history, and media, but I'm sure that will change once I'm actually in university. I'm kind of iffy about missing the whole staying in residence experience as well if I go to UTSC. What universities have a variety of programs that are reputable but also have a good social scene? I come from a low-income family so scholarships are important. My grades hover around low 90s to high 80s. I really want those four years to be enjoyable  I was looking into Western, Laurier, Queens, and York. (Laurier and York are a hour and a half commute but I don't think OSAP will increase my living expenses since I live within 40 km. That's going to be a pain). I know this is a difficult question but I'll be thankful for any advice. You may want to check out Ottawa too...very generous in scholarship . They calculate using only your english plus any top 5 . My maximum OSAP plus $4k ( $16K renewable over 4 years) plus bursary will be more than enough to cover the entire year ; plus if at the time of offer your above top 5 is at 95% and later drops to eg 80% you still keep the original offer. Your money is guaranteed to go up but never down. You basically have 3 chances to increase your scholarship money: early acceptance - between December and Jan, 2nd round of offer Feb/March and the final offer in May. Not sure if there are any other schools out there that is this generous!!
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Skye12 wrote:Thanks! May I ask what marks and ECs you had? I don't know if I even can get in. My average for first term was slightly over 89% and it dropped about 3% into second term. If I remember correctly, I was admitted when OUAC only posted up my first term grades. Regardless, a mid to high 80s average should suffice for Arts. The Science cut-off may differ marginally (1-3% at most). As for ECs, I honestly didn't have any. Queen's requires you to write a short essay for your application and I only included stuff I did for community hours. I didn't join any teams or clubs in high school. If your marks are relatively high, ECs are not as important. **Shields** Accepted: University of Toronto: Social Sciences + Vic One (Pearson Stream) Carleton University: Honours Science University of British Columbia: Arts
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cherrypie725 wrote:However, I'm pay a lot more for 1st year residence than a lot of my friends at other schools, and houses near Queen's are relatively expensive to rent. So that's something to take into consideration. How was your experience at Queens? Do they have strong science and arts program? I heard Queens has a work study program so that's helpful but I don't know if I could handle that. Do you know anyone's experience with it? Ryerson(main site) Accepted Ryerson(Centennial) Accepted Ryerson(George Brown) Accepted UOIT Accepted McMaster Accepted
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Razear wrote:I didn't join any teams or clubs in high school. If your marks are relatively high, ECs are not as important. I feel a bit more confident now but I'm aiming for scholarships so I think it's important to have some ECs as well. I'm not sure if I should have more ECs and risk my grade dropping or just study hardcore and try for over 90. Ryerson(main site) Accepted Ryerson(Centennial) Accepted Ryerson(George Brown) Accepted UOIT Accepted McMaster Accepted
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Chickadee wrote:Knowing full well that everyone hates the person who says this, I'm just going to put it out there: why don't you take a gap year?
For a general first year program, I think your marks will absolutely be able to get you in.
I hope this helps! Thanks! It's something to think about for sure although I probably would end up working at McDonalds or something since I have no work experience, LOL. Ryerson(main site) Accepted Ryerson(Centennial) Accepted Ryerson(George Brown) Accepted UOIT Accepted McMaster Accepted
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Skye12 wrote:I feel a bit more confident now but I'm aiming for scholarships so I think it's important to have some ECs as well. I'm not sure if I should have more ECs and risk my grade dropping or just study hardcore and try for over 90.
As far as entrance scholarships are concerned, it's all about grades. Make sure your top 6 is 90%+ to be eligible. The good thing about Queen's is that they always use your Arts average to calculate a student's top 6 for entrance scholarships so if you bomb out on Calc or something, it won't hurt your financial aid. I'm sure there are other scholarships that will look at your ECs, but most of those require applications and/or essays. **Shields** Accepted: University of Toronto: Social Sciences + Vic One (Pearson Stream) Carleton University: Honours Science University of British Columbia: Arts
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I would recommend the Ivey AEO route. For the first two years you can do whatever program you want (explore your interest), then if you meet the requirement, you will be doing the Ivey HBA program (one of the best in Canada). Also if you feel like completing your first 2 years of study, you can stay a fifth year and get dual degrees. But cost could be an issue as Ivey is one of the most expensive programs in the country (~20k a year for the 2 years in Ivey) University of Western Ontario, Class of '16 Financial Modelling + Ivey AEO
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Thanks for all the advice guys! I think I'll apply to all the universities I'm interested in and then make my decision from there. I've got some time at least. Ryerson(main site) Accepted Ryerson(Centennial) Accepted Ryerson(George Brown) Accepted UOIT Accepted McMaster Accepted
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