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What do you think a safe mark will be for someone with minimal extra-curriculars from both schools? Waterloo/Laurier Math Business DD Class of 2017
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dballa21 wrote:What do you think a safe mark will be for someone with minimal extra-curriculars from both schools? 90 at laurier, 91-92 at UW. WLU/UW BBA/BCS 2015 Formerly noxx98
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If I have one badish mark dragging down my average from 91-90 will that affect admission at waterloo? Waterloo/Laurier Math Business DD Class of 2017
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dballa21 wrote:If I have one badish mark dragging down my average from 91-90 will that affect admission at waterloo? I think you'll be fine. Whatever you do don't repeat it. Write the Euclid, and try to do well on that, and write a good AIF and you'll be dandy. Right now youre a toss up for UW, but you'll get WLU. WLU/UW BBA/BCS 2015 Formerly noxx98
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I was also wondering how much more, if anything, DD students make during co-op than regular mathematics? Waterloo/Laurier Math Business DD Class of 2017
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dballa21 wrote:I was also wondering how much more, if anything, DD students make during co-op than regular mathematics? Id assume its more simply because DDs will get more high end jobs (finance, accounting, etc) then normal math students. WLU/UW BBA/BCS 2015 Formerly noxx98
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Thanks for answering my questions Nick0rz. Just three more random things:
1. Would you consider this program to be one of the top 3 or top 5 business programs in Canada?
2. Im keen in entering the asset management side of finance, so in your opinion would DD be the best program for me to enter or would you suggest Queens/Schulich/Ivey instead?
3. How do you think the program will rank among others a decade from now (or even a longer time frame, when there are more graduates, because from what I have heard there are less than 1000 grads from this program)
Thanks in advance!
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ConMan wrote:Thanks for answering my questions Nick0rz. Just three more random things:
1. Would you consider this program to be one of the top 3 or top 5 business programs in Canada?
2. Im keen in entering the asset management side of finance, so in your opinion would DD be the best program for me to enter or would you suggest Queens/Schulich/Ivey instead?
3. How do you think the program will rank among others a decade from now (or even a longer time frame, when there are more graduates, because from what I have heard there are less than 1000 grads from this program)
Thanks in advance! I hate straight rankings, I'm more of a tier guy. I'd say that DD is in the upper tier, or VERY close to breaking into it. Upper Tier being Ivey, Queens, Schulich maybe. For finance I think DD is in the upper tier. Consulting not so much. Accounting its great, particularly because of co-op. 2. DD or Ivey. Ivey simply for recruitment. Its a target school, and always will be. DD is certainly up and coming. Co-op would be a great way to get into that. I know there were co-op jobs in asset management from the big canadian banks. I already got a job, so Im locked out of the system, otherwise Id share a bit more info about them. 3. The only place to go is up. I believe this year was the 6th graduating class of UW/WLU DDs. The first graduating class only had like 30-50 people in it, and it hasn't even broken 100 a year yet. So youre looking at < 500 graduates. The grads out there are already doing great things. I know theres quite a few who are at Mckinsey, worked in the NBA/MLB, working at top canadian banks, doing MBAs at Stanford etc. With the inclusion of the CS DD, theyve been able to add another way of "marketing" the program to employers to gain even more recognition. I can easily see it remaining a top program, especially as co-op becomes more and more popular. I dont know if it'll ever displace Ivey as the #1, simply because of the heavy math component, but for those who have a desire to do the math side of things, its such a great option. [/probably somewhat biased poast] WLU/UW BBA/BCS 2015 Formerly noxx98
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DD is a great program and all (I almost went there), but I feel it's getting more fame than it deserves. Sure the opportunities to high finance are great, the versatility is huge, and you get to be the bosses of 2 campuses... But I feel that a lot the comments on SA are doing a huge disservice to the students who would have otherwise chose Ivey/Qc/Schulich. It's not like there are minor differences, the programs are very different. 30+ Math/CS courses is no walk in the park.
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The Math and CS courses certainly aren't easy. However, I can say with full confidence that it prepares you for critical thinking and problem solving, as well as an understanding of the mathematics behind finance more so than most, if not all business programs.
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Math/CS is hard for sure. I agree I don't stress that enough when I talk about DD. Also FWIW, a friend of mine read my post and told me to stop lying to poor high school kids and convincing them to come to a program where they will have no life. So there's that. WLU/UW BBA/BCS 2015 Formerly noxx98
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I didn't say it wasn't good for you and all. Probably the best Canadian undergraduate program in terms of opportunity and potential of that kind. It definitely prepares you for the critical thinking and problem solving - whatever. But the reality is, most people seriously either don't have the capacity intellectually or through work-ethic for the program to actually benefit them. And you're luring people who would have otherwise took an arts degree at Ivey to study 30+ courses of Math and CS. I sell DD even though I'm not in it to a lot of kids, but sometimes you've go to be a little realistic.
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Honestly, it doesn't take a large intellectual capacity to succeed here. There are plenty of students who aren't necessarily the brightest, but do put in the effort (which isn't superhuman) and seem to be fine. If students get in, I think they more often than not will be able to succeed in DD. That's not to say that the program is easy because its NOT, and I understand the point you're making. This is just my opinion though.
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TFE wrote:Honestly, it doesn't take a large intellectual capacity to succeed here. There are plenty of students who aren't necessarily the brightest, but do put in the effort (which isn't superhuman) and seem to be fine. If students get in, I think they more often than not will be able to succeed in DD. That's not to say that the program is easy because its NOT, and I understand the point you're making. This is just my opinion though. Hold off on that judgement. Youre BU111 midterm was MUCH easier then ours was (no quant stuff). You havent had the Math 135 exam yet, and you havent had Math 138 yet. I was pulling off upper 80's in all my classes at this point in first year. Then... marks fell! WLU/UW BBA/BCS 2015 Formerly noxx98
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TFE wrote:Honestly, it doesn't take a large intellectual capacity to succeed here. There are plenty of students who aren't necessarily the brightest, but do put in the effort (which isn't superhuman) and seem to be fine. If students get in, I think they more often than not will be able to succeed in DD. That's not to say that the program is easy because its NOT, and I understand the point you're making. This is just my opinion though. You overestimate the students here, lol - trust.
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Thanks for the info, I really appreciate it.
@immaculatedx: Based on your comments, I'm guessing you've applied for the DD as well, but the program you're in is Math/CA. What made choose your program over dd? Do you mind sharing what kind of career prospects you had in mind?
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ConMan wrote:Thanks for the info, I really appreciate it.
@immaculatedx: Based on your comments, I'm guessing you've applied for the DD as well, but the program you're in is Math/CA. What made choose your program over dd? Do you mind sharing what kind of career prospects you had in mind? Yeah, I was actually committed to DD the majority of grade 12. This was mostly because I was interested in finance and thought that the flexibility to do anything in finance from DD (Corporate finance to investment management to risk management/actuarial to whatever). Obviously I changed my mind though. For career prospects, I think the name is kind of obvious (Math/Chartered Accountancy). If you'd like to know more, you can PM me.
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Yeah I have no idea about aviation. Don't get an english degree however unless you want to teach english, or absolutely love it. Full time = 15-20 hours of class + 20-40 hours outside of class. WLU/UW BBA/BCS 2015 Formerly noxx98
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Someone PMed me this as an anon. Will answer here. 1. I am thinking of applying to the Waterloo double degree program that will get me the Business Administration and Computer Science degree. I was reading on the thread that I can apply from both Laurier and Waterloo. Will this make a difference in my overall outcome? Will my co op placements be affected? Will one of the universities have better contacts with big companies to help me get a job at the end of my 5 year course? WLU has better connections with the business world, UW has better connections with the tech world. Yes co-op placements will be affected. You'll end up at top companies either way, just depends whether you want businessy jobs or tech jobs. 2. I want to become a CA. Will I be able to finish my double degree program and then become a CA? Without doing a 4 year program? What I was thinking was taking some electives during my 5 year double degree program that are in the CA program. Will this help me in becoming a CA faster? Yes you can do that. Not sure what you mean by 4 years. DD is a 5 year program. All business schools require atleast 4 years to get all the CA course credits. Yes it will. You can take all the required CA courses in 5 years, as long as you do a few semesters with 6 semesters and/or take some courses over co-op/off terms. 3. Would getting two degrees be better than getting one if that one degree was from Schulich? I also want to apply to Schulich and do the BBA or iBBA programs. Would Schulich be better keeping in mind that I want to become a CA? How about UofT? or Western? Would other universities be better in helping me become a CA? Laurier and Schulich are probably 2 of the top schools for accounting, you can't go wrong either way. UofT and Western are not reknown for churning out accountants. Having 2 degrees will not be a HUGE benefit for a CA, but it will never hurt. WLU/UW BBA/BCS 2015 Formerly noxx98
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