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brady23 did not seem to start this one, so you guys can write stuff here. Expect the following to be covered: 1. Tools of Data Management (there isn't much to do with the rest of the course) 2. Data Analysis (Some of this is very basic, and you've seen some of this in grade 5, I think) 3. Trends/Regressions 4. Organized Counting using Permutations 5. Organized Counting using Combinations + Set Theory 6. Probability 7. Discrete Probability Distributions 8. Continuous Probability Distributions The world is not over and I'm still kicking butt!
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Hey, do you guys have any ideas for a topic for the Data summative? BTW, its the one where you have to research and find a relationship between two variables. For ex. The relationship between a baseball player's size and his batting average. Some kid wrote 19 pages on that topic last year. :S
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AKhan11 wrote:Hey, do you guys have any ideas for a topic for the Data summative? BTW, its the one where you have to research and find a relationship between two variables. For ex. The relationship between a baseball player's size and his batting average. Some kid wrote 19 pages on that topic last year. :S When I took this course, I examined the relationship between hours of sleep and tiredness throughout the school day. For external variables, I considered the amount of caffeine, commute to school, homework, time spent on extracurriculars and physical activity. My final report was 7 pages in length, and with all the statistics/data charts included, the entire project was 28 pages. It's really not that intimidating. The world is not over and I'm still kicking butt!
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I'm taking this course right now, and just finished learning permutations, combinations, and probability. Now we're learning about statistics, indexes, etc. Any suggestions on how I can improve my marks in this course? I heard that the rest (all the things after we learn permutations and combinations) are going to be easier to get high marks in. Is it true? Applied/[Accepted]:
York: Schulich BBA [Accepted]
UTSG: Rotman Commerce Accepted
UTSC: Co-op Management/ [Accepted]
UTM: Commerce/ [Accepted]
York: Psychology/ [Accepted]
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cocoappleli wrote:I'm taking this course right now, and just finished learning permutations, combinations, and probability. Now we're learning about statistics, indexes, etc. Any suggestions on how I can improve my marks in this course? I heard that the rest (all the things after we learn permutations and combinations) are going to be easier to get high marks in. Is it true? stats is probs the easiest topic in MDM4U i think, however, we spend the entire 2 months on this topic and just finished it last friday. we'll start the combination chapter on the 14th. Hate this course so much :/ Applied in Fall 2011: McGill - Arts [Accepted] + Economics & Finance [Accepted]McMaster - Business1 [Accepted]UOttawa - Finance + Coop [Accepted]Queens - Commerce [Waitlisted] => [Rejected]UBC- Finance [Accepted]UTM - Commerce & Finance [Accepted]Uof T Rotman (Woodsworth College) - Finance & Economics [Accepted]Waterloo - Math/Financial Analysis Risk Management [Accepted]_____________________________________________________________________________________________ HS Top 6 Average: 97.8% (BAT4M, BBB4M, CIA4U, ENG4U, MCV4U, MHF4U)   Sauder School of Business Class of 2016
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Joshki wrote:cocoappleli wrote:I'm taking this course right now, and just finished learning permutations, combinations, and probability. Now we're learning about statistics, indexes, etc. Any suggestions on how I can improve my marks in this course? I heard that the rest (all the things after we learn permutations and combinations) are going to be easier to get high marks in. Is it true? stats is probs the easiest topic in MDM4U i think, however, we spend the entire 2 months on this topic and just finished it last friday. we'll start the combination chapter on the 14th. Hate this course so much :/ May I ask what mark you go in statistics, and what are the things that you learned in that unit? Applied/[Accepted]:
York: Schulich BBA [Accepted]
UTSG: Rotman Commerce Accepted
UTSC: Co-op Management/ [Accepted]
UTM: Commerce/ [Accepted]
York: Psychology/ [Accepted]
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cocoappleli wrote:Joshki wrote:cocoappleli wrote:I'm taking this course right now, and just finished learning permutations, combinations, and probability. Now we're learning about statistics, indexes, etc. Any suggestions on how I can improve my marks in this course? I heard that the rest (all the things after we learn permutations and combinations) are going to be easier to get high marks in. Is it true? stats is probs the easiest topic in MDM4U i think, however, we spend the entire 2 months on this topic and just finished it last friday. we'll start the combination chapter on the 14th. Hate this course so much :/ May I ask what mark you go in statistics, and what are the things that you learned in that unit? Final course I took while completing high school. Finished it Oct 31. I got a 95 in it. The statistics unit is basically grade 9 math - scatter plots, line of best fit, extrapolation, that sort of stuff. It's really easy. The probability stuff is seriously the most interesting.
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rightsaidfred wrote:cocoappleli wrote:Joshki wrote:cocoappleli wrote:I'm taking this course right now, and just finished learning permutations, combinations, and probability. Now we're learning about statistics, indexes, etc. Any suggestions on how I can improve my marks in this course? I heard that the rest (all the things after we learn permutations and combinations) are going to be easier to get high marks in. Is it true? stats is probs the easiest topic in MDM4U i think, however, we spend the entire 2 months on this topic and just finished it last friday. we'll start the combination chapter on the 14th. Hate this course so much :/ May I ask what mark you go in statistics, and what are the things that you learned in that unit? Final course I took while completing high school. Finished it Oct 31. I got a 95 in it. The statistics unit is basically grade 9 math - scatter plots, line of best fit, extrapolation, that sort of stuff. It's really easy. The probability stuff is seriously the most interesting. I agree. Probability is the best part of the course. So much fun. So many people say this is a difficult class but I have yet to see the validity of those statements
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has anyone taken this in recent years who could help me out ?
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Rank: Senior Student  Joined: 11/26/2011 Posts: 62
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I want to take one course over the summer so that in day school I have a spare each semester.
Pls tell me and guide me if i should take English or Data in the summer, pls share your personal experience about summer school and how difficult it is compared to day school.
thanks.
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Rank: Student Council Joined: 10/13/2011 Posts: 365
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asimayyaz wrote:I want to take one course over the summer so that in day school I have a spare each semester.
Pls tell me and guide me if i should take English or Data in the summer, pls share your personal experience about summer school and how difficult it is compared to day school.
thanks. I'd say take ENG4U in summer school simply because a lot of my friends took it during the summer and ended up with preeety decent grades (its alot easier than day school). Also, MDM4U is better to be taken at day school. Applied in Fall 2011: McGill - Arts [Accepted] + Economics & Finance [Accepted]McMaster - Business1 [Accepted]UOttawa - Finance + Coop [Accepted]Queens - Commerce [Waitlisted] => [Rejected]UBC- Finance [Accepted]UTM - Commerce & Finance [Accepted]Uof T Rotman (Woodsworth College) - Finance & Economics [Accepted]Waterloo - Math/Financial Analysis Risk Management [Accepted]_____________________________________________________________________________________________ HS Top 6 Average: 97.8% (BAT4M, BBB4M, CIA4U, ENG4U, MCV4U, MHF4U) Sauder School of Business Class of 2016
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Joshki wrote:asimayyaz wrote:I want to take one course over the summer so that in day school I have a spare each semester.
Pls tell me and guide me if i should take English or Data in the summer, pls share your personal experience about summer school and how difficult it is compared to day school.
thanks. I'd say take ENG4U in summer school simply because a lot of my friends took it during the summer and ended up with preeety decent grades (its alot easier than day school). Also, MDM4U is better to be taken at day school. I'd have to disagree about English being easier in summer school. It can be if you're lucky and end up with an easy teacher, but generally, it is tougher because it takes time to full analyze literary works and make those thematic connections in your head. I tried taking ENG4U in the summer but I felt everything was so rushed. Even though I was getting an 89, I felt unprepared for future essays and the exam so I dropped it. Right now, in English this semester, I'm also getting an 89, but I feel I've gained a much stronger grasp of what I've been reading and learned so much more. I recommend doing some research on your teachers at your school and find out if they are difficult markers. If they are, then summer school would be a safer bet.
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Rank: Student Council  Joined: 6/28/2011 Posts: 344
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Bump. How's this course going for all those currently taking it? I'm currently sitting at a 90% in this course but I know it's going to go up for sure. I definitely find this to be the easiest of the 3 maths. Applied to:
Brock University - Computer Science [Accepted]
McGill - Computer Engineering [Accepted]
McMaster - Engineering I [Accepted]
Queens - Engineering [Accepted]
Western - Engineering [Accepted]
Attending: McMaster Engineering - Class of 2016
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I'm finding it pretty stressful now.... I have a permutations quiz tomorrow and I really need to do well on it! I have a 90% but I know it's gone down from the last test :(
My teacher said it definitely wasn't the easiest 4U math :/
But my teacher's a hard marker so...
How are you finding permutations so far? The TIPS-style questions are killing me D:
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Rank: Student Council  Joined: 12/25/2011 Posts: 373
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Doing really well in this course, quite happy. Sitting at a 94% :) McMaster University - Honours Psychology, Neuroscience, & Behaviour (B.A.) '2016
Career Plans:
Primary Goal: To become a Clinical Neuropsychologist
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Say I were considering taking some statistics courses at university. Would it be worth it to take MDM 4U, or would it be better to take a course I know I can do well in? Also, how much is it like the traditional maths? (MHF 4U/MCV 4U). Is it an easy course to get 90%+ in?
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sepriv wrote:Say I were considering taking some statistics courses at university. Would it be worth it to take MDM 4U, or would it be better to take a course I know I can do well in? Also, how much is it like the traditional maths? (MHF 4U/MCV 4U). Is it an easy course to get 90%+ in? Yes it's definitely worth taking this course if you know you're going to be taking a stats course in university. I find this course to be much easier than Advanced Functions and Calculus and vectors, but that being said, like any other math course, you HAVE to do your homework daily if you want a good mark. It's quite different from the traditional maths, it requires a different level of thinking, a more logical thinking. But even if you're not a very good logical thinker, aslong as you do all your homework, you'll be able to manage a 90. I currently have a 92 in this course, and I don't even pay attention to the lessons in class anymore because I find them extremely boring, but aslong as you go home afterwards and look over the note, read the textbook and do the homework, you'll be fine. Applied to:
Brock University - Computer Science [Accepted]
McGill - Computer Engineering [Accepted]
McMaster - Engineering I [Accepted]
Queens - Engineering [Accepted]
Western - Engineering [Accepted]
Attending: McMaster Engineering - Class of 2016
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Rank: Senior Student
Joined: 1/30/2012
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This course is a mark booster. Currently getting 90+. My teacher marks like a jackass though. UTSC - Computer Science Coop 2016
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Currently doing the final analysis using secondary data -.-...not fun but beats functions and calculus! how are ppl going to approach this final project?  Free Publicity? O_o AWESOME SAUCE! 8D ^-^ Check out some of my fellow Youtubers! http://www.youtube.com/user/DCDRhey
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I've heard that people who have taken this course say it's pretty easy for the most part. I'm taking it next year in grade 11 so I just wanted to know if it would be more difficult than IB functions if I take data management at a university level and if I should take advanced functions&calculus in grade 12 as well. Also what would you recommend doing to recieve a good grade in data management?
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