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ktel wrote:If there's no page limit, then sure, include it all, but in the future and for any job application your resume should be much shorter. I had a lot of volunteering experience and awards when I was in high school and I just cut a lot of it because most if it is irrelevant to employers.
There's always an implied page limit. A person is on going to look at a resume for 20-30 seconds. In that time do you want them trying to take in everything about your whole life? Or would you rather them read short, precise statements? Clearly the latter.
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ARMY101 wrote:There's always an implied page limit. A person is on going to look at a resume for 20-30 seconds. In that time do you want them trying to take in everything about your whole life? Or would you rather them read short, precise statements? Clearly the latter. Keep in mind this person is not talking about applying for a job. They're talking about a university application. When I applied for grad school they asked for a CV, not a resume, which was much longer than my resume. There is a bit more flexibility. That being said I highly doubt this individual has enough information to fill 4 pages unless she is writing huge paragraphs about everything that she's ever done. I managed to fit work experience, volunteer experience and awards in 2 pages by using brief explanations
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ARMY101 wrote:caveman wrote:Is there any spot on a resume where you could put awards/scholarships. I don't really see a spot to put it but I feel that some of my awards/scholarships should be included- obviously I don't want every award I can think of on there just 2-4 maybe.
Thanks in advance. If your resume is for getting a job, then under your education is the appropriate place. For example: B.A., Carleton University - Blah blah blah these are the highlights - Awarded the I.M. Awesome Scholarship in 2010 - Awarded the bursary for academic excellence in 2009 If your resume is just for applying to university or based on academics, then yes, a separate section for awards and scholarships would be appropriate. My thanks to you, ARMY, and ktel is long overdue. I really appreciated the advice, and had meant to reply after seeing your responses but haven't visited the forum since then.
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Quote:Depends on the job. Some of them (McDonald's, Tim Horton's, some grocery stores) want to know up front what you want to work. They usually have an "availability" spot right on the application. If they don't, then no, don't mention it in your application. Mention it during the interview. I am considering applying for a position at Tim Horton's, and I was slightly confused by this statement. Do you mean all I have to do is fill in an application? Do I still have to hand in a resume? Also, what should I include in my Objective if I were to apply to a fast food restaurant or a retail store? Thanks in advance!
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leahzhao wrote:I am considering applying for a position at Tim Horton's, and I was slightly confused by this statement. Do you mean all I have to do is fill in an application? Do I still have to hand in a resume? No, definitely attach a copy of your resume and a cover letter. Quote:Also, what should I include in my Objective if I were to apply to a fast food restaurant or a retail store? Something like "friendly, hard-working student seeking employment at <<Company name>>, where my excellent customer service and organization skills can be used to positively benefit the company."
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ARMY101 wrote:Something like "friendly, hard-working student seeking employment at <<Company name>>, where my excellent customer service and organization skills can be used to positively benefit the company." Why bother putting that in when it sounds so canned? There is no point in putting anything on your resume that doesn't add something, and that statement definitely does not. Short, sweet, to the point. Every statement on your resume should say something.
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Hi, so I was wondering for education I'm attending university and I don't know how to lay it out because when I applied for jobs I already graduated high school so I knew what to put for education when I listed my high school. Would the outline for a university be like: University name Program Major/minor/specialization And where should I put the year I started or how would I format it? Also, since I've worked for my parents in a family business for a long time (5 years), are employers less likely to hire me if they knew that I worked for my parents? I'm always afraid that they'd question me and be like "Why do you want to work for other people and not for your parents?" or that they'll judge me and think that my parents have their own business, which means they could think that my parents have money and then it would lead to so why does she need a job, which makes me worried that I wouldn't be their first choice to hire because I'm more privileged than others? But I just want experience to work with other people outside my family, and I don't want to be judged of them thinking that I don't need the money, just because my parents have their own business. Waterloo - Honors Arts; Psychology Co-op (May 2012); Accepted
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I put the year started and my intended graduating date.
Employers aren't charity workers. They don't hire people based on how privileged or not they are. I wouldn't worry about them not hiring you because you worked for your parents.
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I was wondering if you had a format for cover letters and/or tips? Lots of tips would be appreciated... And maybe just a place to start.
I've been looking all over the Internet, but I'm feeling completely lost... To the point where I found something I want to apply for at around 4 pm and now it's 12:30 am... (I wasn't looking through job stuff the whole time, but you can see how much I put it off, since I have no idea where to start...)
The job I want to apply for is a summer job, and I don't have the name of the person that would be looking at my resume. I've seen conflicting results on the Internet on what to use. Apparently "Dear Sir/Madame" would be terrible to use... Would, "Dear Hiring Manager" be okay? It's for a summer school tutoring job with my school board.
It also seems as though I should start the letter with something like, "I am responding to the employment opportunity listed on your website," (which would be the school board website) or variations of. Though not all say this. What do you recommend?
I've also seen varying lengths for the cover letter. About how long do you think mine should be? I'm a grade 10 student with no work experience, but related volunteer experience.
On the application (it's online), there is also something at the end that looks like this:
Skills
Please complete the following skills profile, indicating proficiency and usage for skills already listed. Fill in any additional skills you feel are relevant in the blank fields provided below. (One skill per field).
Skills: Proficiency Level: Years Experience: Last Used:
____ -drop down list- -drop down list- -drop down list-
I'm not too sure what they expect me to put for skills? Do they mean things such as English, French, Chemistry, etc. So, courses I've taken? And then proficiency level would be measured by whatever grade I got? I'd be tutoring elementary school students, so should I not include courses such as chemistry? There's a separate box where they want me to copy and paste my resume, so I'm assuming these skills would be different from the usual, good communicator, cooperative, etc?
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Starring wrote:I was wondering if you had a format for cover letters and/or tips? Lots of tips would be appreciated... And maybe just a place to start.
I've been looking all over the Internet, but I'm feeling completely lost... To the point where I found something I want to apply for at around 4 pm and now it's 12:30 am... (I wasn't looking through job stuff the whole time, but you can see how much I put it off, since I have no idea where to start...)
The job I want to apply for is a summer job, and I don't have the name of the person that would be looking at my resume. I've seen conflicting results on the Internet on what to use. Apparently "Dear Sir/Madame" would be terrible to use... Would, "Dear Hiring Manager" be okay? It's for a summer school tutoring job with my school board.
if you don't have the name of the person who'd be looking at your resume, just use To whom may it concern. Honestly there should not be any standard format for a cover letter because you are always suppose to personalize it based on the company.
It also seems as though I should start the letter with something like, "I am responding to the employment opportunity listed on your website," (which would be the school board website) or variations of. Though not all say this. What do you recommend?
That sounds fine to me. It's a letter. Write a letter like you normally would. It makes sense that you start out with how you found out about the job. Then, lead into how much you're interested in it, how you think you would be a great contributor, what you know about the company (and why you think their awesome),etc.
I've also seen varying lengths for the cover letter. About how long do you think mine should be? I'm a grade 10 student with no work experience, but related volunteer experience.
always 1 page max. is my standard. too long = hard to skim. and yes, they will probably get many many applicants, so they -will- skim. [/b[
On the application (it's online), there is also something at the end that looks like this:
[b]Skills
Please complete the following skills profile, indicating proficiency and usage for skills already listed. Fill in any additional skills you feel are relevant in the blank fields provided below. (One skill per field).
Skills: Proficiency Level: Years Experience: Last Used:
____ -drop down list- -drop down list- -drop down list-
I'm not too sure what they expect me to put for skills? Do they mean things such as English, French, Chemistry, etc. So, courses I've taken? And then proficiency level would be measured by whatever grade I got? I'd be tutoring elementary school students, so should I not include courses such as chemistry? There's a separate box where they want me to copy and paste my resume, so I'm assuming these skills would be different from the usual, good communicator, cooperative, etc? skills are usually talking about people skills or technical skills. so, yes. you can also add in MS word, excel, etc. UW Software Engineering 2015Check out my blog, where I talk about school, coop terms, and other random stuff :)
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greygoose wrote:ARMY101 wrote:Something like "friendly, hard-working student seeking employment at <<Company name>>, where my excellent customer service and organization skills can be used to positively benefit the company." Why bother putting that in when it sounds so canned? There is no point in putting anything on your resume that doesn't add something, and that statement definitely does not. Short, sweet, to the point. Every statement on your resume should say something. It does add something. The company wants to know your objective - your goal, your purpose - to working there. They don't want to hire someone who wants to work just for money, and if they do they're not a very good business. The objective statement gives them that reassurance.
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vslow wrote:Hi, so I was wondering for education I'm attending university and I don't know how to lay it out because when I applied for jobs I already graduated high school so I knew what to put for education when I listed my high school. Would the outline for a university be like:
University name
Program
Major/minor/specialization
And where should I put the year I started or how would I format it? Right, something like that is fine. I'm not sure if it'll show properly because of the forum formatting, but it could be like: Carleton University<----------------------------Space--------->September 2011 - Present - B.A. in law and political science - Finished every year to date on honour roll - Help disabled kids take notes - Etc. Quote:Also, since I've worked for my parents in a family business for a long time (5 years), are employers less likely to hire me if they knew that I worked for my parents? I'm always afraid that they'd question me and be like "Why do you want to work for other people and not for your parents?" or that they'll judge me and think that my parents have their own business, which means they could think that my parents have money and then it would lead to so why does she need a job, which makes me worried that I wouldn't be their first choice to hire because I'm more privileged than others? But I just want experience to work with other people outside my family, and I don't want to be judged of them thinking that I don't need the money, just because my parents have their own business. They'll wonder why you're leaving any job, so be prepared to answer it. And did you actually work for your parents? It wasn't fake work or made up for some salary? If so then you're fine. Just be able to speak on your duties, responsibilities, management, etc.
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Starring wrote:Apparently "Dear Sir/Madame" would be terrible to use... Would, "Dear Hiring Manager" be okay? It's for a summer school tutoring job with my school board. I've never heard of sir/ma'am being a negative. It's *best* if you can write "Dear Mr. Jason Johnson" but writing "Dear Hiring Manager", "Dear Sir," or "To Whom It May Concern" is just fine. Quote:It also seems as though I should start the letter with something like, "I am responding to the employment opportunity listed on your website," (which would be the school board website) or variations of. Though not all say this. What do you recommend? Yes. Your first part should always be: Dear John Smith,
Please accept my application for the tutoring position posted with the <<School District Name>>.Then add a summary sentence about why they NEED to hire you. Something like Dear John Smith,
Please accept my application for the tutoring position posted with the <<School District Name>>. You will find that I possess the outstanding abilities to meet and exceed the requirements for this job, and, coupled with my passion to help students, I am your prime candidate for this position.Quote:I've also seen varying lengths for the cover letter. About how long do you think mine should be? I'm a grade 10 student with no work experience, but related volunteer experience. No more than one page. On the application (it's online), there is also something at the end that looks like this: Quote:I'm not too sure what they expect me to put for skills? Do they mean things such as English, French, Chemistry, etc. So, courses I've taken? And then proficiency level would be measured by whatever grade I got? I'd be tutoring elementary school students, so should I not include courses such as chemistry? There's a separate box where they want me to copy and paste my resume, so I'm assuming these skills would be different from the usual, good communicator, cooperative, etc? They want skills, not qualifications. Your school courses are qualifications. Skills are atributes such as computer programming, proficiency in Microsoft Office, managing 2-20 employees, writing, summarizing materials, providing leadership and guidance, and so forth. The proficiency is how good you are at those things. For layouts and examples, see http://campusapps2.fulle.../CoverLetterLayout.aspx and http://jobsearch.about.c...over-letter-layout.htm.
Good luck!
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For that you should required that you need to read some tips on resume objective.
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A little late, but thank you!
I was given a link so that I could edit my application at any time, so I was wondering if you could help me with the middle paragraph of the cover letter. On one of the sites you linked, it says that I should write about why I want this job... Would saying I'm considering teaching as a career and that I'd like some more experience in the area be something suitable to write?
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Hi i want to ask you one thing that do you provide your services for conducting interviews or not?
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Hey I was just wondering what do you put for the highlights section? Awards? or highlights in your life that made major impacts? or both? Sorry if it is a dumb quesiton. Just wondering University of Waterloo: Environment and Business( Co-op) graduating class of 2017
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A résumé is a self-advertisement that, when done properly, shows how your skills, experience, and achievements match the requirements of the job you want to get. This guide provides three free samples for you to base your resume on. It will also walk you through setting up and laying out the best layout to highlight your particular skills and help you make your content grab the reader’s attention.
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it would show you're organized, professional, and perhaps have connections in the field.
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