Hello, janetteaq.

I'm sorry, but I'm not registered with OSAP or UTAPS, so I don't have any information or experience with how they operate.

Best of luck in your application, though.

- MattUK

A 3.5 is an 80%, right? That's how the GPA system works at U of T, but I know that there are variations. I think that mid- to high-seventies (or 3.0 - 3.5) is the general expectation for U of T Life Science. As for the actual quality of the students in the first-year programme, I think you'll probably be in the lower range of the applicants, but you should have a strong chance of getting in.

Just keep in mind, getting in to U of T is the easy part. First-year Life Science in particular needs to start weeding out students immediately, so be prepared to put in a lot of effort if you want to succeed.

I hope this helped!
- MattUK

Hey, Leooforever.

I applied to both McGill and U of T, too. I was fortunate enough to be accepted to both universities. My original plan was to attend McGill, since it was reputable and exclusive. I knew that McGill was a respected school, but the more I looked at the McGill Economics programme itself, the more I found McGill students warning applicants not to attend. The general sentiment that I found is that McGill does not pay much attention to its Economic department, so the professors aren't leaders in their field, and the courses are not engaging or interesting.

I eventually decided upon the University of Toronto, and I love the programme here. All of the professors I've had are passionate - my current professor will stay behind for as long as it takes to answer questions and have discussions about Economics. I can't say whether or not McGill Economic really is poor, but I can confirm that U of T Economics is a well-funded, well-respected programme. As for academics, it is difficult, as I've mentioned to others in this thread. There is lots of weeding out, and lots of Mathematics. But if you knuckle down, you shouldn't have any issues.

As for your average, I'm not sure about McGill, since I've heard it's quite exclusive (for reference, my average was 97% when I applied, so I'm not sure what the lowest acceptable range is), but you should have no problems applying to U of T Social Science.

I hope this helps,
Matt UK

Hi Leooforever,

Well, I was never bothered by the feel of the campus or anything like that. I went where the options were best. But that's just me. There's no point going to a school you hate versus a school you love because of the words of someone on the internet. A degree from McGill is a degree from McGill, and I'm just relaying my rationale behind choosing U of T over McGill - which didn't take into account my feelings about either place.

The only school I visited that I just hated was Queen's, for whatever reason.

- MattUK

Hi anchma,

I don't recall filling out such a form when I applied to Social Science. I just made my selection on OUAC and that was that. I think that for professional programmes, additional forms are required, but not for Arts and Science.

You'll need to send in forms if you're living in residence, and to get your T-Card, etc. But that only becomes a requirement once you've accepted the offer.

I hope this helps!
- MattUK

Hello again,

Perhaps the requirements were changed, but I don't recall having to full out a supplementary application. I did a quick Google search, and found that supplementary forms are for specific things. For example, if you applied for Trinity or Victoria College, or if you applied for Engineering, there are forms for that. But if you just did Social Science at a normal college, then there are no additional requirements.

And no, I believe that you can only apply for one department. Remember, at U of T, you do not select your major until the end of first year. You could hop from Social Science to Life Science during that time if you wanted, so long as you have the prerequisites. I am still debating between a programme in Social Science or one in Physical Science. Therefore, if you get rejected from one, you're going to get rejected from them all.

I hope this helps!
- MattUK

Ask you anything?

What is your bank account #, password, and your mother's maiden name?

What math are you taking?

Oh thanks. I just asked because I figured you might be in my class. In fact you are, but the class is too big so I've probably never met you anyways. Have a nice day.

I'm in 157 and 223. What you said about 223 is not surprising and is probably true. I've actually never attended a single 223 lecture because it's an evening one and I commute, and the material is so dull anyways. I just study from the book instead. In hindsight I probably should've taken 240 instead.

Sometimes the tests for some courses are really trivial and yet still a large percentage of students fail. The reverse is also true sometimes. So I stopped correlating class averages with course difficulty a long time ago. :P

@Xiaohaha and @MattUK can either of you commnent on the difficulty of MAT157y and MAT240 + 247 , Im a little bit worried my school isn't preparing me well enough, what would you recommend would be good preparation for both courses, I already know a bit of basic math proofs such as induction etc and im reading a couple math books such as courant's What is Mathematics(might also get ahold of spivak's calculus though not sure about that -_-),would you recommend anything in particular or should I not be worried? and seeing as ontario doesn't have any standardized tests and im going to be taking the Euclid math contest this april what would you say is a sufficient score that would indicate that one is going be able to perform well enough in university maths?

Oh and @MattUK since your taking Economics do you happen to know if you can do a math specialist and an eco minor?

Im applying for Math specialist BTW.

TY