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MCV4U (Calculus & Vectors 12) Discussions Options
Bscit
#41 Posted : Monday, April 02, 2012 4:57:10 PM
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Wow make up tests. My mark is about mid 80s right now. I just started the Calc part last week. It seems simple so far but it doesnt matter that much since the midterms are pretty much the deciding factor for unis.
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jellybro
#42 Posted : Monday, April 02, 2012 8:14:49 PM
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Calculus is also killing my mark pretty badly... I just did optimization and I an most likely sitting at an 86... Apparently half my grade is getting killed by the new tests made by a different teacher this year. I have one more quiz, so wish me luck cheers

PS: UNI admissions depend on this, good luck to everyone.

PSS: My school does not offer any sort of "retests" or anything of the sort. However, I'm feeling that some teachers are willing to bump since people around me are sitting at flat 70s or 60s...
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Ba Ba Blue
#43 Posted : Tuesday, April 03, 2012 1:30:40 AM
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jellybro, there is not a single program out there that thinks an 86 is bad. Health sciences may be the only exception, but even then you'll still be able to get in. Don't fret.

Also, if you plan to succeed at university DO NOT rely on similar tests year over year as you imply you've done here. University professors make exams and tests so different from one year to the next that if you do that you will not succeed very much. Focus on mastering the concepts, not mastering the test.

As for this concept of re-tests, I believe they can be a useful tool for teachers (note that I am a teacher in training). The point of tests is to assess one's understanding of the curriculum. I am not of the impression that it matters when in the semester the curriculum is mastered, so long as it's all learned by the end of a course. What I say is that if someone is motivated enough to study harder a second time around, other than laziness there is really no reason not to let them try again. Anyone who says anything to the contrary is probably trying to make a course hard for the sake of it being hard.
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jellybro
#44 Posted : Tuesday, April 03, 2012 3:12:45 PM
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Ba Ba Blue wrote:
jellybro, there is not a single program out there that thinks an 86 is bad. Health sciences may be the only exception, but even then you'll still be able to get in. Don't fret.

Also, if you plan to succeed at university DO NOT rely on similar tests year over year as you imply you've done here. University professors make exams and tests so different from one year to the next that if you do that you will not succeed very much. Focus on mastering the concepts, not mastering the test.

As for this concept of re-tests, I believe they can be a useful tool for teachers (note that I am a teacher in training). The point of tests is to assess one's understanding of the curriculum. I am not of the impression that it matters when in the semester the curriculum is mastered, so long as it's all learned by the end of a course. What I say is that if someone is motivated enough to study harder a second time around, other than laziness there is really no reason not to let them try again. Anyone who says anything to the contrary is probably trying to make a course hard for the sake of it being hard.


Hey, thanks for that encouragement.... I guess I'm stressing because of the "overachievers" on these forums because there are so many people with better marks that I feel an 86 is underachieving. I DO NOT rely on previous year's for tests. It's just the fact that my sister who graduated keeps her old calculus tests and when comparing them, I find that my year is a lot harder. On the other hand, retests are definitely a good way to give students who are willing to try a second chance, however, retests can be at times unfair. Some students work hard for their marks the first time. Anyways, good opinion, thanks for bringing some relief to me :)
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#45 Posted : Tuesday, April 03, 2012 8:43:01 PM
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ahh what the heck, we had a whole test on Implict Differentiation. Honestly Calculus is easy if you just do your homework, i slacked off at the beginning of the semester and had like a 75... then i realized how awful that was and brought it up to 89 with three tests. Advanced Functions i thought so far was a lot harder.
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comebackkid
#46 Posted : Wednesday, April 04, 2012 6:41:52 PM
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brady23 wrote:
Unit 1: Vectors
Unit 2: Vector Applications
Unit 3: Intersection of Lines and Planes
Unit 4: Concepts of Calculus
Unit 5: Derivatives
Unit 6: Curve Sketching
Unit 7: Derivative Applications and Related Rates
Unit 8: Derivative of Exponents and Log Functions-Exponential Functions
Unit 9: Trig Differentiation and Application

Any general comments about this course? I have it next semester.


Hmm... My vectors outline is pretty different in comparison:
Unit 1: Vectors and Applications
Unit 2: Algabreic Vectors
Unit 3: Vector Equations of Lines
Unit 4: Planes and Matrices

Does anyone else have 4 units of vectors? We only have 4 units of calculus though,
Im doing okay so far, I guess... I think I'm sitting on like an 85 but I hope to get it up to a 90.

How's calculus, to the kids taking it right now?
KingKhan
#47 Posted : Saturday, April 07, 2012 7:01:07 PM
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When is everyone writing their exam? Our vectors exam is divided up into 2 parts, one on Wednesday and one on Thursday, both for an hour long. I really really hope it goes well
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jelly
#48 Posted : Sunday, April 08, 2012 1:24:44 AM
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Its an alright course. I really don't get why people are struggling in it compared to advanced functions, I honestly don't see that big of a difference in terms of difficulty. There is a 10% grade difference at my school. Advanced Functions was pretty damn high around the low to mid 80s, and Calculus right now (we're wrapping up our unit of curve sketching now) is in the low-mid 70s. I found the entire calculus portion pretty manageable and didn't really have trouble with anything in particular.
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sascer520
#49 Posted : Sunday, April 08, 2012 1:04:35 PM
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We are finishing calculus before mid-terms, and then starting Vectors right after. We got a question on our quiz and it gave us an exponential function with base "e." I can't remember the actual function it was like f[x]= 2e^-x, not really sure there was more to it. The question asked, Find the 1000th derivative of f[x]. They asked this same question for g[x]=cos(2x).

So all I did was take about 4 derivatives of each and then i just found a pattern and wrote an expression for it. A lot of people in my class struggled with this one.

Oh and in my school we are evaluating trigonometric limits using the fundamental trig limit. Are any of you doing that too in your calculus course?

I was just wondering cause some schools aren't doing it apparently.
KingKhan
#50 Posted : Sunday, April 08, 2012 2:29:44 PM
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jelly wrote:
Its an alright course. I really don't get why people are struggling in it compared to advanced functions, I honestly don't see that big of a difference in terms of difficulty. There is a 10% grade difference at my school. Advanced Functions was pretty damn high around the low to mid 80s, and Calculus right now (we're wrapping up our unit of curve sketching now) is in the low-mid 70s. I found the entire calculus portion pretty manageable and didn't really have trouble with anything in particular.

No one here said they were struggling with calculus, it's vectors that some people (including me) are struggling with.
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jelly
#51 Posted : Sunday, April 08, 2012 3:18:43 PM
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I was more referring to my school, where almost everyone had a heart attack after the first couple of units. I've always heard from past years that calculus is easy and vectors is killer, but we're not starting vectors till after midterms anyway. As long as my marks don't drop too significantly I'm fine with it. I wonder how vectors will be for my school if everyone here is struggling with calculus...
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superstar2011
#52 Posted : Monday, April 09, 2012 3:19:58 PM
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jelly wrote:
I was more referring to my school, where almost everyone had a heart attack after the first couple of units. I've always heard from past years that calculus is easy and vectors is killer, but we're not starting vectors till after midterms anyway. As long as my marks don't drop too significantly I'm fine with it. I wonder how vectors will be for my school if everyone here is struggling with calculus...

Vectors is not necessarily harder than calculus, and I actually found it easier. The difference is that you deal with a whole new array of stuff in vectors, which might be why many find vectors a challenge. There's the z-axis, vector products and applications, lines and planes in 3D and some other funky stuff like parallepipeds, but if you do well in geometry, vectors will be fine for the most part.
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#53 Posted : Tuesday, April 10, 2012 7:12:30 PM
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we started the whole calculus stuff first since my teachers not really into vectors.. couldn't complain with this course as the class average is sitting at 86%
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AngelRider123
#54 Posted : Thursday, April 12, 2012 12:33:42 AM
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I am taking it this semester at night school and I am on chapter 4 and 5 and i have a test on monday and i kinda need help with chapter 5
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KingKhan
#55 Posted : Saturday, April 14, 2012 1:09:51 AM
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We just had our exam for vectors, which was divided up into 2 parts. I got a 95% on part 1, not sure what I got on part 2 as I just wrote it today but I feel like it was much worse than part 1 for sure.

I'm glad to finally be done with vectors, it was hell, can't wait to start calculus now.
Has anyone else wrote their exam yet? How did it go?

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#56 Posted : Monday, April 16, 2012 9:44:34 PM
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Just completely finished vectors and managed to pull my mark from a 71 to 86 (thank god!) However, I'm still aiming for a 93 minimum, hopefully I can bump it up with calculus now since that's suppose to the easier part of this course. bounce
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#57 Posted : Saturday, April 21, 2012 6:13:51 PM
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Done with vectors which I thought were grade 10 material. The most confusing part of vectors is the matrix manipulation which isn't difficult if done correctly. However, I did get 70% on one thing because I sort of copied the question wrong... and solved for the wrong thing.

And from what I've seen in calculus so far it's pretty algebraic-y - <3
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sascer520
#58 Posted : Sunday, April 22, 2012 1:09:17 AM
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We just started Vectors, and so far it doesn't seem to bad. I am just afraid of the proving part like If, |x+y|=|x-y|, prove that the non zero vectors x and y are perpendicular. The rest, I seem to get.
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#59 Posted : Sunday, April 29, 2012 4:21:23 PM
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Right now, my Calc class is finishing up Chapter 5 will all the fun trig stuff -.- I don't like trig :) Anyways, I found that Advanced Functions was useless to me, and I did worse in it than I am doing in Calculus (sitting at a 92 right now). Currently preparing for a curve sketching test- where I completely understand the algorithm/concept, but get very annoyed by the complexity and time consuming nature of curve sketching. Kind of looking forward to vectors. But by far, as long as you at least try for most things, there is no reason why you shouldn't do decently, unless, of course, you have a not so great teacher...
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#60 Posted : Monday, April 30, 2012 12:25:30 AM
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Calculus section was pretty straight-forward. We just started vectors and I haven't really started looking into the unit yet but it seems alright. Teacher is very kind and mostly generous, class average rose up a lot. The first few brutal tests had the class average around high 60s to low 70s, now we're sitting around a 78.
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