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Sigh, some of the people here must be trolls; "I love debates", and "I am passionate about ethics"... Stop kidding yourselves and look beyond the films people. The irony is of course that so many great lawyers will be snapped up by multinationals to help them find ways to dodge tax, avoid legitimate law suits and exploit the many loopholes in corporate law, let's see how your love of ethics and morals hold up when presented with your first pay cheque. Anyone who was really passionate about these things should go into legal aid (or US/Canadian equivalent if there is one). McGill - Arts
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I wanted to be a lawyer so I could say. " Bam. Lawyered! " Bleeding Blue with the McMaster Health Science Class of 2015
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Reading the previous posts in this thread I can see that a lot of people believe that because they like arguing they should become a lawyer. I too enjoy arguing or trying to prove a point but I think that all of us have to understand that if we do ever succeed in our pursuit to becoming lawyers, the environments they "argue" in are very controlled. I'm not trying to be negative to anyone but in all honesty maybe your knack for arguing should not be the only reason on why you want to become a lawyer. Personally, I enjoy researching and finding ways in which I can swing cases in my way. I also like finding cases that benefit me and using them to set a precedent just so I know I am correct. The whole helping the world thing isn't really for me seeing as if I were to become a lawyer I would be looking into defending criminals or possibly corporations. Don't hate me please =).
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apanday07 wrote:Reading the previous posts in this thread I can see that a lot of people believe that because they like arguing they should become a lawyer. I too enjoy arguing or trying to prove a point but I think that all of us have to understand that if we do ever succeed in our pursuit to becoming lawyers, the environments they "argue" in are very controlled. I'm not trying to be negative to anyone but in all honesty maybe your knack for arguing should not be the only reason on why you want to become a lawyer. Personally, I enjoy researching and finding ways in which I can swing cases in my way. I also like finding cases that benefit me and using them to set a precedent just so I know I am correct. The whole helping the world thing isn't really for me seeing as if I were to become a lawyer I would be looking into defending criminals or possibly corporations. Don't hate me please =). You and I are opposite on the last point. I want to prosecute/appeal for the government. I totally agree with the rest though, finding ways to swing cases, etc. Also, Canadian courts are indeed much more controlled and not nearly as "theatrical" as their American counterparts. I've seen Canadian Judges chew out lawyers for "acting" too much, quite funny when you see a lawyer stopped in his tracks by an unhappy judge. QUEEN'S CLASS OF 2016
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I have a good understanding of the law and the legal system, I'm a strong, passionate and persuasive speaker and it's a respectable, steady career with a good paycheque. Let's not kid ourselves, that's why we're all here is it not? University of Guelph Bachelor of Arts, Class of 2016
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I want to be a lawyer because I value written communication, (which is honestly the main medium of law, not verbal, raging court debates) don’t mind paper work (a part of me enjoys filling out forms. Must see therapist…) and I like working with a variety of issues.
As for those who imply that we "manipulating", "scumbag protecting" lawyers and lawyers-to-be are evil, you're right. Without trained experts to translate important documents and educate people on their rights, society would only benefit!
Screw developed logical thinking skills! Dash reasonable process! The illiterate villagers of the Dark Ages had a good thing going, whatnot with the pitchforks and the mob mentality. It all fell apart when they started examining things. Why would we want to make sure every arguement has been considered? What's the point of protecting "evil" organizations that also employ and provide benefits to millions of people and their families? It’s so much more fun to make important judgments based on your gut or what looks fair. Hmph!
Could you honestly say that lawyers are detrimental to the development of justice and civil behavior?
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Simply said, I want to be a lawyer because the career suits my character and personality. **Shields**
Accepted:
University of Toronto: Social Sciences + Vic One (Pearson Stream)
Carleton University: Honours Science
University of British Columbia: Arts
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I want to be a lawyer to initiate frivolous civil cases and become famous.
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OscarUK wrote:Sigh, some of the people here must be trolls; "I love debates", and "I am passionate about ethics"... Stop kidding yourselves and look beyond the films people.
The irony is of course that so many great lawyers will be snapped up by multinationals to help them find ways to dodge tax, avoid legitimate law suits and exploit the many loopholes in corporate law, let's see how your love of ethics and morals hold up when presented with your first pay cheque. Anyone who was really passionate about these things should go into legal aid (or US/Canadian equivalent if there is one). You have absolutely no idea what the study of "ethics" entails. Also, if there are loopholes in the system that can be exploited for positive gain, then as long as doing so does not violate the rights of other individuals, there is nothing unethical about doing so.
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Quant wrote:OscarUK wrote:Sigh, some of the people here must be trolls; "I love debates", and "I am passionate about ethics"... Stop kidding yourselves and look beyond the films people.
The irony is of course that so many great lawyers will be snapped up by multinationals to help them find ways to dodge tax, avoid legitimate law suits and exploit the many loopholes in corporate law, let's see how your love of ethics and morals hold up when presented with your first pay cheque. Anyone who was really passionate about these things should go into legal aid (or US/Canadian equivalent if there is one). You have absolutely no idea what the study of "ethics" entails. Also, if there are loopholes in the system that can be exploited for positive gain, then as long as doing so does not violate the rights of other individuals, there is nothing unethical about doing so. Please say you're not as dumb as you just made yourself sound. McGill - Arts
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OscarUK wrote:Quant wrote:OscarUK wrote:Sigh, some of the people here must be trolls; "I love debates", and "I am passionate about ethics"... Stop kidding yourselves and look beyond the films people.
The irony is of course that so many great lawyers will be snapped up by multinationals to help them find ways to dodge tax, avoid legitimate law suits and exploit the many loopholes in corporate law, let's see how your love of ethics and morals hold up when presented with your first pay cheque. Anyone who was really passionate about these things should go into legal aid (or US/Canadian equivalent if there is one). You have absolutely no idea what the study of "ethics" entails. Also, if there are loopholes in the system that can be exploited for positive gain, then as long as doing so does not violate the rights of other individuals, there is nothing unethical about doing so. Please say you're not as dumb as you just made yourself sound. You're the only person in this thread who sounds dumb. This is due to your lack of knowledge of law (primarily corporate law, evidently) and ethics. It's not necessarily your lack of knowledge that makes you a complete fu cking idiot, it's your attempt to sound as though you know what you're talking about, when clearly you do not. That would be the equivalent of me rambling about what it feels like to be majoring in something that requires zero brain power and will yield an annual salary less than that of a garbage man. That's your forte, not mine.
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Quant wrote:OscarUK wrote:Quant wrote:OscarUK wrote:Sigh, some of the people here must be trolls; "I love debates", and "I am passionate about ethics"... Stop kidding yourselves and look beyond the films people.
The irony is of course that so many great lawyers will be snapped up by multinationals to help them find ways to dodge tax, avoid legitimate law suits and exploit the many loopholes in corporate law, let's see how your love of ethics and morals hold up when presented with your first pay cheque. Anyone who was really passionate about these things should go into legal aid (or US/Canadian equivalent if there is one). You have absolutely no idea what the study of "ethics" entails. Also, if there are loopholes in the system that can be exploited for positive gain, then as long as doing so does not violate the rights of other individuals, there is nothing unethical about doing so. Please say you're not as dumb as you just made yourself sound. You're the only person in this thread who sounds dumb. This is due to your lack of knowledge of law (primarily corporate law, evidently) and ethics. It's not necessarily your lack of knowledge that makes you a complete fu cking idiot, it's your attempt to sound as though you know what you're talking about, when clearly you do not. That would be the equivalent of me rambling about what it feels like to be majoring in something that requires zero brain power and will yield an annual salary less than that of a garbage man. That's your forte, not mine. Hey kiddies. How about we all tone it down about 12 notches? Novel idea, I know. Queen's Arts '16 Chancellor's Scholarship Recipient
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I realise that some reasons commonly cited are 'passion', 'love for debates', 'good pay' and 'love to argue'.
But just how many can really stay on in the legal field?
There is always the issue of ethical or moral concerns where you end up having to fight for the powerful and influential criminals; not to mention as well that the tough and boring life forces many to rethink whether its really worth it to sacrifice their social life.
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twototango wrote:I realise that some reasons commonly cited are 'passion', 'love for debates', 'good pay' and 'love to argue'.
But just how many can really stay on in the legal field?
There is always the issue of ethical or moral concerns where you end up having to fight for the powerful and influential criminals; not to mention as well that the tough and boring life forces many to rethink whether its really worth it to sacrifice their social life.
that's why i swore that i'd never become a criminal lawyer lololololol .. but ever since the mock trial in my grade 12 class last semester , when i found out that i like to argue as well (even though i suck at debating and talking on the spot) , i've been having second thoughts , o; actually , the only reason i ever got into law in the first place was because i never knew what i wanted to be , so my parents told me to consider it . i took co-op for it too and ended up working in a real estate lawyer's office .. it was nice. i liked organizing papers and compiling the reports and stuff~ ^_^ and last week , i heard someone speak about men who have been labelled by the Canadian government as "terrorists" even though there has been no solid evidence to suggest this ... these people have been tortured and treated unfairly for years , and they can't even properly defend themselves because they don't know the grounds they're being prosecuted on . call me naive, but i want to change the law for these people . the system they're going through doesn't work and even if i don't know much about the law itself , i know that there HAS to be a solution out there ... so i'm going to find it . University of Waterloo, Environment & Business 1B
[b]"why do we kill people who kill people
to prove that killing people is wrong?"
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KeileTheFriendlyMuuMuu wrote:Rourachnitchai wrote:Title self-explanatory.
I love political philosophy and ethics, I enjoy debating, I want a good career and I want to have an impact on society. You should get a career in politics, not law. Law is not about ethics, unless of course you believe defending criminals (many of whom are dead guilty) in criminal law is "ethical". Also, you won't be using "political philosophy" in corporate law. You'll be working at indecent hours on Friday night trying to finish a worthless document for Monday that no one will read until probably next Friday. Also, 99% of lawyers don't have an "impact on society"; the people that do are called politicians, who just happen to have acquired a JD. Many politicians, however, do not have JDs. Harper does not have a JD. Nor did Trudeau. The list goes on. I wanted to go law once, then I realized finance pays more at lower and higher levels with just as much downside. Girl, whatchu talkin bout. This person probably wants to be a Crown Prosecutor. So would I.
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I want to be a lawyer because, first of all, I hate math and sciences. Secondly, I am very good at writing essays. And thirdly, I want to fight for people.
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I feel that almost everyone nowadays just so loosely and easily exclaimed that they want to be a lawyer without knowing well enough and getting the reality check about the legal profession.
We've seen and heard it all - they enjoy debating and love arguing, hate math and sciences, want to bring justice to society and whatnot.
But the truth is, being a lawyer is not as simplistic as these people think it is. Oftentimes, lawyers find themselves having to tread on the morality issue when they were expected to defend criminals. This is because law firms, in a bid to outwit their rivals, tried to handle more high-profile cases whereby winning a case for the wealthy, influential criminals would not only bode well for the firm's reputation but also generate much more revenue than defending an innocent victim who is probably too poor to afford the legal fees.
The additional fact that going to law school has incurred an exorbitant debt for many students but yet left them unemployed for a long time does not help either.
If, by all means, you are still certain about law being the career path for you, good luck!
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i watched the show "suits" and im like ahh shieet, im gonna become a lawyer
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I want to become a lawyer for a number of reasons.
It would make for a good narrative that celebrates the complexity of life. I would like to inform people on how I championed the cause of the Native Americans. But for personal gains, a submission to greed, and as humorless stain on the soul of society that I am, I would charge them more than the compensation received.
There is good that can be derived from the bad. The inverse could also be said. People would become educated, to learn from experience, as a primary or even a secondary player. Because people learn the most in times that are challenging. I would be the one to evoke emotional responses. Certainty, we are all guilty of a few debaucheries. Catharsis…am I right? There is nothing wrong with be an antagonist. I could become an agent of change. I could become the catalyst for growth.
I feel convinced. I would not mind becoming a diplomat for a period of time. A law degree would allow for such a station. I would knock up some young Korean girl along the path of destruction. I do, as a human being, have obligations, duties, and responsibilities to other people.
One day at a time.
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