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Which is better? Western Biomed or MAC Life Science? Options
teeching
#1 Posted : Friday, May 04, 2012 8:41:03 PM
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Joined: 9/20/2011
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I know there are many forums discussing which one is better but i need more opinions to help make the right decision. Which one is better in terms of the program, campus, university life, etc. and why. Thank you!
Applied to:

Mc Master - Life Science Accepted
Western - Biomedical Science - Accepted
Queens - Science - Accepted
Waterloo - Life Science - Accepted
Waterloo - Science and Business - Accepted
U of T (St. George) - Life Science - Accepted


ls123
#2 Posted : Saturday, May 05, 2012 12:12:43 AM
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Joined: 5/4/2012
Posts: 31
My Personal Opinion

Program (based on what I've heard from friends and family who have attended both programs) - Western has more diversity in terms of meeting your strengths (ie. if you didn't take high school physics, it's not a pre requisite for bio med and you can take an intro to physics course as opposed to being thrown into a biophysics or uni level physics) and more options for modules, as well as more personable/funny/kind profs, less stressful lab environment and overall I've heard people have a better experience. However, I'm near certain that life science at mac has smaller classes (probably not by a significantly less amount i'd imagine) and in terms of overall program, at either program you can achieve the necessary requirements to attend graduate school, masters programs, etc. and they are probably on par in terms of overall difficulty, getting a good GPA, that sort of thing.

Campus - Western is huge. McMaster is small. That's key. What's most important about campus is visiting and getting a feel for it and see which you enjoy better. I wouldn't really say that one has nicer buildings than another, they are quite different campuses so it's kind of like comparing apples to oranges in a way. You just have to choose what you like better.

University Life - Western has parties, sure, but that rep is kind of an outdated one. Put young adults in an unmonitored environment, living with their friends alone for the first time for an entire year, and there will be parties no matter where it is or what the reputation is. I know for a fact that both McMaster and Western are good schools in terms of getting your stuff done, like it's not like your studying will be inhibited by unrelenting parties. But I'm sure you can find a party wherever you go. I'm not very sure about extra curriculars, athletics, etc. at Mac because I don't know anyone who got involved in things like that but I know it's very easy to get involved at Western whether it's clubs, societies, sports, etc. and there's always something going on. This is also something I think you need to experience. If you have a friend in first year at either school, I'd recommend staying for a weekend (I guess it's a bit late for that now unfortunately) but that would be the best way to judge what university life you personally connect more with and think you'll have a better time with.
The University of Western Ontario, Class of 2016

Offered Admission to:

The University of Western Ontario - Biological and Medical Sciences May 11, 2012
McMaster University - Life Sciences February 17, 2012
Queen's University - Science (Honours) February 24, 2012

Waiting to Receive Admission to:
none! 3/3
rm12345
#3 Posted : Saturday, May 05, 2012 11:05:56 AM
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Joined: 11/21/2011
Posts: 7
I can only speak on the view point of a McMaster student (just finished first year)

Quality of education:

The profs at mcmaster are great. A lot of the profs in first year for the science courses are extremely approachable and are more than willing to help (some courses even have formal study groups through external websites, and podcasts are put up if you miss any classes). The average marks for your typical science class (whether it be physics, chemistry etc) are around the mid to high 60's. However, that shouldn't make or break your decision to be honest, because (1) that is the COURSE average, and (2) that's what the typical average is if you compare any post-secondary institutions. McMaster gives you every opportunity to do well in your courses and some students take that opportunity & other's don't.

Life at Mac:

I lived on residence in my first year, and it was loads of fun. One thing though was that there weren't that many parties at McMaster (but maybe that's because I wasn't really looking at the right places). So if that's your thing then hopefully you have better luck than me :P. The campus itself is beautiful, when it isn't raining, and it rains a lot in Hamilton. It's a mix between modern architecture and really old architecture. That is not to say that the buildings will collapse, just in the style and design of the buildings.

As well, the students here are all very friendly. Everyone here will be in the same boat as you, if you choose to come here, during the first week. They'll all be looking for friends that they can become close with. But again, that's something that all university students come with in their first week of post-secondary education.

Hopefully this has helped you somewhat.
DoctorGaga
#4 Posted : Saturday, May 05, 2012 11:41:41 AM
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Joined: 11/4/2011
Posts: 113
Ive actually seen westerns campus several times. and i have to say its absolutely stunning. i cant compare it to macs because i haven't seen macs. but western on its own is a beautiful campus. its HUGE, yes, but its kind of like harry potter meets queen elizabeth. the architecture of some buildings are so pretty. but to be honest, i personally didnt like the fact that it was such a huge campus cause in a way i felt a bit...small? if that makes any sense at all. but then again, like everyone says, its completely u to the way you feel and i think even if its too late to stay at campus for the weekend..definitely take a couple hours outta ur day to visit it, walk around and get a feel of what ur life could be like. hope that helps!
mccannca466
#5 Posted : Saturday, May 05, 2012 11:52:59 PM
Rank: Senior Student




Joined: 4/3/2012
Posts: 161
While I am going to Western (I like their Nursing clinicals better), I will admit that so far I like Mac's campus better than Western. I have only been to UWO 2 times, so I know I will get used to it, but it was so huge! I felt kind of insignificant. There are huge gaps between some of the buildings, and I got lost quite easily. Plus I found that many of the buildings looked the same. Mac, on the other hand, feels very much like home. It feels cozy and just the right size. Each building looks different, and I find the campus to be gorgeous!

Plus, I have found many friends through Mac; even though I am not a student, a religious group encouraged me to join and welcomed me with open arms. There are lots of clubs to join, but I think Western has more variety. Western also has better sports on the whole (although Mac won the football Vanier cup this year - it was CRAZY!)

In regards t programs, I would have to say they both seem to be about on par. But from the forum, most people who applied to life sci want to go to Mac. I think mac has a better rep than Western biomed. That being said, both are great, especially if you are thinking of med school in the future.
UWO: Nursing Class of 2016!

"If God brings you to it, He'll pull you through it".
teeching
#6 Posted : Sunday, May 06, 2012 12:43:04 AM
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Joined: 9/20/2011
Posts: 16
Thanks guys for the long and detailed responses!

I have been to both campuses and I like both of them. Although I think I like Western's campus better mainly because MAC feels a bit small. Just a personal reason, I feel that a bigger university campus gives me more of a university environment, rather than the feeling of a bigger high school, if that makes sense.

Yes, many people are telling me that MAC has a better reputation than Western and their science courses are better. If you might be going to the states for med school, would telling them that you went to MAC sound better? I heard that the states judge you by the reputation of your undergrad school :S.

One more question, I'm aware that at Western, they give you a bachelor of medical science while at MAC they only give you a bachelor of science. Does it really make a difference which one you get, although they both get you to med school?

Thanks again guys (:
Applied to:

Mc Master - Life Science Accepted
Western - Biomedical Science - Accepted
Queens - Science - Accepted
Waterloo - Life Science - Accepted
Waterloo - Science and Business - Accepted
U of T (St. George) - Life Science - Accepted


RachDin
#7 Posted : Sunday, May 06, 2012 9:17:42 AM
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Joined: 8/2/2011
Posts: 26
If you want to go to the states for med school, Mac and Western aren't really known down there. There may be a minor difference in terms of prestige between Mac and UWO in Canada, but the states mainly known U of T and McGill
UTM Life Sciences I
random
#8 Posted : Sunday, May 06, 2012 3:58:36 PM
Rank: Senior Student




Joined: 2/21/2011
Posts: 125
teeching wrote:
One more question, I'm aware that at Western, they give you a bachelor of medical science while at MAC they only give you a bachelor of science. Does it really make a difference which one you get, although they both get you to med school?


No, it does not matter. The names of programs or degrees are not standardized. Just because it has "medical" in its name does not give you any advantage. You can get into med school with any program anyway.
ls123
#9 Posted : Sunday, May 06, 2012 9:17:29 PM
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Joined: 5/4/2012
Posts: 31
random wrote:
teeching wrote:
One more question, I'm aware that at Western, they give you a bachelor of medical science while at MAC they only give you a bachelor of science. Does it really make a difference which one you get, although they both get you to med school?


No, it does not matter. The names of programs or degrees are not standardized. Just because it has "medical" in its name does not give you any advantage. You can get into med school with any program anyway.


This is true. I know someone who went into medical school with an arts degree.
The University of Western Ontario, Class of 2016

Offered Admission to:

The University of Western Ontario - Biological and Medical Sciences May 11, 2012
McMaster University - Life Sciences February 17, 2012
Queen's University - Science (Honours) February 24, 2012

Waiting to Receive Admission to:
none! 3/3
random
#10 Posted : Sunday, May 06, 2012 10:29:11 PM
Rank: Senior Student




Joined: 2/21/2011
Posts: 125
ls123 wrote:
random wrote:
teeching wrote:
One more question, I'm aware that at Western, they give you a bachelor of medical science while at MAC they only give you a bachelor of science. Does it really make a difference which one you get, although they both get you to med school?


No, it does not matter. The names of programs or degrees are not standardized. Just because it has "medical" in its name does not give you any advantage. You can get into med school with any program anyway.


This is true. I know someone who went into medical school with an arts degree.


I also heard about a few people getting in with dance degrees. I still can't fathom how they did well on their MCATs.
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