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arviny wrote:maelong wrote:i thank you for answering the questions
1. so i'm still not sure if i should choose computer science over engineering do you think i should? and if you do why? 2. I really want to go to u of t, but i heard they drop like half of people in the 1st year, especially in cs program is it true? 3. i also heard it's impossible to keep decent gpa in u of t, some says it's as hard as harvard; i'm thinking to go to grad school is u of t good choice for me then?
wow thank you so much
i love big cities and admire u of t campus but i see too many problems and worries including financial problem should i just ignore them and follow my guts? 1. Job field wise ECE and CS are quite different. ECE you learn about circuit analysis , electronics, digital systems..basically hardware end (read this for more info on page 119, http://www.apsc.utoronto...gineering-2011-2012.pdf). Check out the courses you must take and see if you have an interest for them. Later on in 3rd and 4th year ECE you can end up specializing in different fields of study like software design (including low level programming), robotics, and so on (see this http://www.ece.utoronto..../Curriculum_Streams.htm). But you still have access to a lot of jobs people in CS can do, though you might be slightly less competitive if you don't have a lot of experience programming and want to be a software developer of some sort. Still a good chuck of ECE graduates end up doing CS jobs (Microsoft, Google, big names..) and make good money, but they could also be working with low level programming and coding drivers and things like that since it deals with computer architecture and knowledge of hardware/circuits. CS definitely deals with more math and theory behind computation. Some of your CS courses could involve more math and proofs than actual programming. But the job field is really booming since CS has an application everywhere from hospitals to banks to tech companies. Think if you really want to be a developer and want to stick with programming/design end of software then do CS because you will not be disappointed. Don't worry about the professional engineering certification, just do what you find the most interesting and like the most. If you love computers and are not certain you want to go down the path of programming, then do ECE since it gives you the most exposure. Plus you can always switch out of ECE to CS easily, but it's harder to go from CS to ECE. 2. There are a handful of people I know that knew CS wasn't for them and switched programs, but didn't drop out. Refer to my other post above, it's really not that bad as it's put out to be. You can do well if you decide to, but if you want to walk in and expect to do well with minimal work and aren't a genius then good luck. In fact it's the same at most universities because high school != university. 3. Again more bs about this university. I know plenty of people who got like 95+ or perfect in their courses like math and cs and I my self have a decent average as well (had a 4.0 GPA just the other day before my econ mark came in short of a 4.0). Trust me, UW and UofT are no different in difficulty. It is a challenge, but the good kind. You will learn a lot and get the hang of it. Plus like I said before, CS department really cares for it's students (at least in 1st year), they're not there to kick half of us out but instead they (profs and TA's) try their best to help anyone who's falling behind and wants help. 4. Follow your guts. Visit the campuses and get a feel for the environment and see if you like them. Finacial problems I learned are best dealt with at the schools financial aid office since they typically do cover what is left over after OSAP and parents/your contributions (at least at UofT and engineers get insane amounts of cash). University of Toronto: Chemical Engineering --- Rejected...was 1st choice University of Toronto: Computer Science --- Accepted (April 19th) University of Waterloo: Chemical Engineering --- Accepted (April 7th) McGill University: Electrical, Computer & Software Engineering --- Accepted. (Mar 12th) University of Calgary: Engineering--- Accepted. (Mar 13th)
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TotoSmith wrote:I kind of have a random question that I was hoping that you could answer. Do you know if it is possible to double major in actuarial science and computer science? Thanks! :) Not sure, but I do know you can double major cs with math, economics, or stats (from http://www.artsandscienc...fr/calendar/crs_csc.htm). There's also a actuarial science specialist and major http://www.artsandscienc...r/calendar/crs_act.htm. So if you can perhaps find a way to get all the major requirements for cs and actuarial science then you're good (basically 20 credits are required for graduation so 5.0 credits/year and it's overkill to take 6.0 credits/year which is allowed, but there's always summer school). Think you should really research if it is beneficial/more interesting for you to major in both or specialize in either one and not both. UTSG Computer Science UC - 2015 (PEY 2016)
6/6 Toronto St. George - Computer Science Accepted Toronto St. George - Electrical and Computer Engineering Accepted Toronto Scarborough- Computer Science co-opAccepted Waterloo - Computer Science co-op Accepted Waterloo - Software Engineering co-op Accepted York - Computer Science Accepted
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Hey which university is better for computer science. University of Guelph or York University?
Can you tell me which degree is going to earn me a quicker job? bachelor of computing - university of guelph or bachelor of science - york university.
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What was the average you had to maintain to keep your offer if you had one?
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SeanAli wrote:Hey which university is better for computer science. University of Guelph or York University?
Can you tell me which degree is going to earn me a quicker job? bachelor of computing - university of guelph or bachelor of science - york university. No idea, don't know anything about those schools despite the fact I applied to York ( just in case there was a 0.0001% chance I would get reject by my other choices). uberchar wrote: What was the average you had to maintain to keep your offer if you had one?
'Maintain an acceptable average', they were trolling hard by not giving percentage to maintain. I just played it safe and my final average was 90. UTSG Computer Science UC - 2015 (PEY 2016)
6/6 Toronto St. George - Computer Science Accepted Toronto St. George - Electrical and Computer Engineering Accepted Toronto Scarborough- Computer Science co-opAccepted Waterloo - Computer Science co-op Accepted Waterloo - Software Engineering co-op Accepted York - Computer Science Accepted
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I have one question that doesn't relate to Comp Sci o.o Do you need to take English related course in first year?
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arviny could you please tell me how you got accepted to everything. Was it your AIF/SPF? Did you do really well in math? Did you do really well in physics? English? Im so tensed Waterloo Computer Engineering Class of 2017
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Serllen wrote:I have one question that doesn't relate to Comp Sci o.o Do you need to take English related course in first year? To graduate you need to complete the breadth requirement. So 1.0 in 4 of the 5 sections or 1.0 in 3 of the 5 sections and 0.5 credit in 2 sections. English falls in BR1 and so do other foreign languages like Spanish, German, and Japanese which are popular for 1st year. So no you don't need to take English, I did by best to avoid it. Here are the categories, 1.Creative and Cultural Representations (basically languages) 2.Thought, Belief, and Behaviour (psychology related) 3.Society and Its Institutions (sociology, including economics and business courses) 4.Living Things and Their Environment (bio/chem related) 5.The Physical and Mathematical Universes (math, cs, physics, astronomy, other sciences) computerengineer wrote:arviny could you please tell me how you got accepted to everything. Was it your AIF/SPF? Did you do really well in math? Did you do really well in physics? English? Im so tensed My essay and SPF were well done for ECE imo and for UW my AIF wasn't fantastic, it was medicore (however my school was well favoured by UW and I'm pretty sure I did decent on euclid and sin->did this in grade 11). My advanced functions wasn't fantastic at 89 and my calc mark wasn't used for admissions since it was before midterm marks. Physics same story as adv fnc, but took it in grade 11. Then english they didn't have my mark, they had my grade 11 english which was probably 85. You really can't determine if you're going to get admitted by my situation, everyone is slightly different and who knows this year might be much more competitive than the previous. Good luck. UTSG Computer Science UC - 2015 (PEY 2016)
6/6 Toronto St. George - Computer Science Accepted Toronto St. George - Electrical and Computer Engineering Accepted Toronto Scarborough- Computer Science co-opAccepted Waterloo - Computer Science co-op Accepted Waterloo - Software Engineering co-op Accepted York - Computer Science Accepted
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arviny wrote: To graduate you need to complete the breadth requirement. So 1.0 in 4 of the 5 sections or 1.0 in 3 of the 5 sections and 0.5 credit in 2 sections.
So I basically have 4 years to complete these credits in order to graduate right?
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i have to make a decision in two days - - still don't know where to choose btw waterloo chem eng and u of t comp sci. I see you chose comp sci over software engineering, can i ask you why? University of Toronto: Chemical Engineering --- Rejected...was 1st choice University of Toronto: Computer Science --- Accepted (April 19th) University of Waterloo: Chemical Engineering --- Accepted (April 7th) McGill University: Electrical, Computer & Software Engineering --- Accepted. (Mar 12th) University of Calgary: Engineering--- Accepted. (Mar 13th)
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Serllen wrote:arviny wrote: To graduate you need to complete the breadth requirement. So 1.0 in 4 of the 5 sections or 1.0 in 3 of the 5 sections and 0.5 credit in 2 sections.
So I basically have 4 years to complete these credits in order to graduate right? Correct maelong wrote:i have to make a decision in two days - - still don't know where to choose btw waterloo chem eng and u of t comp sci. I see you chose comp sci over software engineering, can i ask you why? Already answered this. Also Chem Eng and CS are very different, this should be a choice of which field interests you more. UTSG Computer Science UC - 2015 (PEY 2016)
6/6 Toronto St. George - Computer Science Accepted Toronto St. George - Electrical and Computer Engineering Accepted Toronto Scarborough- Computer Science co-opAccepted Waterloo - Computer Science co-op Accepted Waterloo - Software Engineering co-op Accepted York - Computer Science Accepted
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maelong wrote:[quote=arviny][quote=maelong]i thank you for answering the questions
1. so i'm still not sure if i should choose computer science over engineering do you think i should? and if you do why? 2. I really want to go to u of t, but i heard they drop like half of people in the 1st year, especially in cs program is it true? 3. i also heard it's impossible to keep decent gpa in u of t, some says it's as hard as harvard; i'm thinking to go to grad school is u of t good choice for me then?
wow thank you so much
i love big cities and admire u of t campus but i see too many problems and worries including financial problem should i just ignore them and follow my guts? 1. Job field wise ECE and CS are quite different. ECE you learn about circuit analysis , electronics, digital systems..basically hardware end (read this for more info on page 119, http://www.apsc.utoronto...gineering-2011-2012.pdf). Check out the courses you must take and see if you have an interest for them. Later on in 3rd and 4th year ECE you can end up specializing in different fields of study like software design (including low level programming), robotics, and so on (see this http://www.ece.utoronto..../Curriculum_Streams.htm). But you still have access to a lot of jobs people in CS can do, though you might be slightly less competitive if you don't have a lot of experience programming and want to be a software developer of some sort. Still a good chuck of ECE graduates end up doing CS jobs (Microsoft, Google, big names..) and make good money, but they could also be working with low level programming and coding drivers and things like that since it deals with computer architecture and knowledge of hardware/circuits. CS definitely deals with more math and theory behind computation. Some of your CS courses could involve more math and proofs than actual programming. But the job field is really booming since CS has an application everywhere from hospitals to banks to tech companies. Think if you really want to be a developer and want to stick with programming/design end of software then do CS because you will not be disappointed. Don't worry about the professional engineering certification, just do what you find the most interesting and like the most. If you love computers and are not certain you want to go down the path of programming, then do ECE since it gives you the most exposure. Plus you can always switch out of ECE to CS easily, but it's harder to go from CS to ECE. 2. There are a handful of people I know that knew CS wasn't for them and switched programs, but didn't drop out. Refer to my other post above, it's really not that bad as it's put out to be. You can do well if you decide to, but if you want to walk in and expect to do well with minimal work and aren't a genius then good luck. In fact it's the same at most universities because high school != university. 3. Again more bs about this university. I know plenty of people who got like 95+ or perfect in their courses like math and cs and I my self have a decent average as well (had a 4.0 GPA just the other day before my econ mark came in short of a 4.0). Trust me, UW a Hello again I googled and researched to find out what jobs i can get if i major CS, but it's just too hard.... major CS = IT guy? University of Toronto: Chemical Engineering --- Rejected...was 1st choice University of Toronto: Computer Science --- Accepted (April 19th) University of Waterloo: Chemical Engineering --- Accepted (April 7th) McGill University: Electrical, Computer & Software Engineering --- Accepted. (Mar 12th) University of Calgary: Engineering--- Accepted. (Mar 13th)
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Hi, I have more questions that don't relate to CS at all. XD In your opinion, how were the student life, meal plans and residence?
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Hi Arvin, I inserted the questions I asked in the "UofT Engineering" discussion topic. Perhaps you have the answer to some of them? I'm deciding between UofT or UWaterloo for Chemical engineering, and I'm having a hard time.
So my questions are
1. How do you like your experience at UofT? Would you recommend others to come to UofT for Chemical engineering? I am deciding between UofT and UWaterloo. Do you think UofT is better? 2. Does UofT help you get a PEY placement? Is it hard to get a job placement? I know that Uwaterloo has a 93% Coop employment rate, what about UofT? 3. Do you know anyone who got a PEY job? What type of jobs are they doing? Which company likes to hire UofT students? in other words,job postings at UofT are generally from where?
I know that's a lot of questions, but anything you know will be helpful to me. Thanks!
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Julia12 wrote:Hi Arvin, I inserted the questions I asked in the "UofT Engineering" discussion topic. Perhaps you have the answer to some of them? I'm deciding between UofT or UWaterloo for Chemical engineering, and I'm having a hard time.
So my questions are
1. How do you like your experience at UofT? Would you recommend others to come to UofT for Chemical engineering? I am deciding between UofT and UWaterloo. Do you think UofT is better? 2. Does UofT help you get a PEY placement? Is it hard to get a job placement? I know that Uwaterloo has a 93% Coop employment rate, what about UofT? 3. Do you know anyone who got a PEY job? What type of jobs are they doing? Which company likes to hire UofT students? in other words,job postings at UofT are generally from where?
I know that's a lot of questions, but anything you know will be helpful to me. Thanks! http://www.reddit.com/r/...zak/u_of_t_engineering/
Similar questions answered here, but here's my take. 1) I have a friend in Chem Eng. and according to her there seems to be a lot of girls there, the most in any engineering stream (I heard from others it's around 40%). The community is okay from what I've seen in Chem Eng. and if you stay on residence (chestnut) you'll have a blast considering you're right in downtown beside the eaton center, so many places to go (great nightlife). If you're willing to get involved, you won't be disappointed. I recommend UofT over UW for chemical engineering since it has a better world reputation and it's much more established (though UW is an engineering school, it's well known for tech sector). I recommend UofT, though I can't be the one to rule out the choice! You should find people in both UW and UofT chem and talk to them. 2)Employment wise, I think UofT has the edge. I've seen the UofT PEY employment rates for chem somewhere (sorry no source here, it was above 70% I believe. Try emailing the PEY office about this they'll likely be able to give you some sort of figure. Option 2 browse around for the 3rd yr enrollment in Chem Eng. and use the data for # of students placed from here to calculate the rate http://www.engineeringca...ary+Stats+2011-2012.pdf). So it should be higher then UW employment rate at the last term (http://www.cecs.uwaterloo.ca/students/statistics.php Log in with WhatIam id/pw and select ENG CHE and look at april 26th rate for this spring). Getting a job is a matter of showing commitment and interest in the field via side projects or club/organization involvement and a solid GPA and knowing your stuff. It shouldn't be hard if you're above average. 3) I know (not personally) a few people who work at AMD (full 12 month), Microsoft (4 month), and Google (4 month) (sorry nothing chem related). As for what kind of companies hire, there's a lot big companies like Suncore and Exxon that I've seen hiring on campus. As for the companies, outside of chem, there are a ton! I've seen all the big tech companies, telecommunications, and big banks/investment firms post recruitment sessions or talks. I think the biggest employer by number of students is AMD in Markham or IBM that take a lot of engineers. UTSG Computer Science UC - 2015 (PEY 2016)
6/6 Toronto St. George - Computer Science Accepted Toronto St. George - Electrical and Computer Engineering Accepted Toronto Scarborough- Computer Science co-opAccepted Waterloo - Computer Science co-op Accepted Waterloo - Software Engineering co-op Accepted York - Computer Science Accepted
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Serllen wrote:Hi, I have more questions that don't relate to CS at all. XD In your opinion, how were the student life, meal plans and residence? Didn't res, but my friends did. Meal plans get lame after a month, though New College cafe isn't bad (I've been there and it is the best because of the variety of food and it's all you can eat, but still sucks after a while). Social life is up to you, you can make it happen (yes there are a ton of party freaks and out going people and a ton of clubs/bars in downtown) or not. Residence is awesome at chestnut and woodsworth, it's really nice there. Overall the experience and whether you have a blast is your choice(might impact grades a bit if you choose to from what I've seen with people I know). UTSG Computer Science UC - 2015 (PEY 2016)
6/6 Toronto St. George - Computer Science Accepted Toronto St. George - Electrical and Computer Engineering Accepted Toronto Scarborough- Computer Science co-opAccepted Waterloo - Computer Science co-op Accepted Waterloo - Software Engineering co-op Accepted York - Computer Science Accepted
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Hello Arvin, Please answer the follow questions to the best of your ability. 1. Can U of T offer more than one alternate choice for engineering? 2. Is there another wave of acceptances? If yes, when is the approx. date? 3. How difficult is it to transfer to electrical engineering if I do enter as a civil engineer? Thanks Algoma University --> English Studies(Rejected) --> Alternate to Monkey & Banana Studies (GOING!) Nippissing University --> Bird Nest Engineering (Accepted) Seneca College --> Toilet Stall Interior Design (Accepted) Mohawk College --> Self-Demolition Arts (Accepted) Lakehead University --> Nursing (Rejected) --> Alternate to Latin American Ritual Dancing
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RejectedFromBrock wrote:Hello Arvin,
Please answer the follow questions to the best of your ability.
1. Can U of T offer more than one alternate choice for engineering?
2. Is there another wave of acceptances? If yes, when is the approx. date?
3. How difficult is it to transfer to electrical engineering if I do enter as a civil engineer?
Thanks Yeh same situation, but I got mineral engineering alternative. Do you guys know if they will reconsider our offer again if some people decline their ECE offer (I know my friend is for waterloo), or is it their last decision? Waterloo Computer Engineering Class of 2017
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computerengineer wrote:RejectedFromBrock wrote:Hello Arvin,
Please answer the follow questions to the best of your ability.
1. Can U of T offer more than one alternate choice for engineering?
2. Is there another wave of acceptances? If yes, when is the approx. date?
3. How difficult is it to transfer to electrical engineering if I do enter as a civil engineer?
Thanks Yeh same situation, but I got mineral engineering alternative. Do you guys know if they will reconsider our offer again if some people decline their ECE offer (I know my friend is for waterloo), or is it their last decision? Highly doubt they will since they know approximately how many people will accept their offers based on historical rates/trends, a friend last year was in the same situation rejected for ECE given Mineral so he went to loo. As for waves, totally clueless all I know is the last one is sometime in May. You can look at the first year courses and compare them, you'll see some courses are common to both streams since first year is a bit general. Those credits you can transfer over, if you're missing anything I guess it will be summer school. Not sure about the details behind this. UTSG Computer Science UC - 2015 (PEY 2016)
6/6 Toronto St. George - Computer Science Accepted Toronto St. George - Electrical and Computer Engineering Accepted Toronto Scarborough- Computer Science co-opAccepted Waterloo - Computer Science co-op Accepted Waterloo - Software Engineering co-op Accepted York - Computer Science Accepted
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Guys they are still sending out offers! I received an e-mail from U of T Admissions saying that they have accepted me into their Computer Engineering program (1st choice) at St. George  . They will be sending a package containing my offer/scholarships 'early next week'! So don't be discouraged if you haven't received an offer yet, it will come in time. Going to: U of T St. George Computer Engineering
Accepted to: U of T St. George Computer Engineering U of T St. George Computer Science Ryerson University Computer Engineering
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