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SUMmer123456 wrote:moshor wrote:OscarUK wrote:Siwalge wrote:OscarUK wrote:Surely by high school age people are a bit old to have imaginary friends? Alright, let's try and keep the conversation polite. No need to bash the beliefs of others. On the contrary, I am more than entitled to express my opinions. If you would prefer me to put them in less sarcastic and plainer terms then I am more than happy to oblige... Religion in every form is misguided, dangerous and fundamentally wrong and anyone who "believes" is living in a dream world. If someone chooses to "believe" and keep that to themselves then so be it, but unfortunately a vast amount of the world's problems today can be traced back to people's "beliefs" the world would be an infinitely better place without it. As I say these are my opinions, take it or leave it... couldn't care less. wow. defensive much? it's like god personall screwed your life over before deciding to not exist. :) just saying. I'd wager someone who lives in a "dream world" hurt this guy hard at some point... I doubt it. If he lives in the UK, then I may be able to understand why he sounds a bit rough. Almost everyone on thetudentroom.co.uk sounds like that. They really despise religion, especially Muslims. I'd say it's because there are a large number of Muslims living in Europe, and many of them tend to get into mad quarrels with the atheists living there. You should check out their student forum (thestudentroom.co.uk) posts... I also agree with him, a bit...
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I'm a Christian and a son of a pastor. I lacked faith earlier but now I feel that I have a relationship with Jesus Christ. The problem with religion is that its set on standards that you have to fulfil and that makes people feel worthless if they don't meet those standards. Christianity is a relationship, not a religion for me. Christianity is the only one based on the idea that it's God searching for you, not man searching for god. Therefore anything we do as a saved or unsaved will be forgiven. All you need to do is believe in him (salvation). Not attacking the Catholic church, but I don't like how they think a believer to must do faith and other works to get to heaven, or they have a pope. I also believe in Christian Libertarian principles. Ron Paul! Program Choices :
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Quote: All you need to do is believe in him (salvation)......Not attacking the Catholic church, but I don't like how they think a believer to must do faith and other works to get to heaven So you believe that simply by believing in God we get into heaven. Regardless of our actions. Klu Klux Klan members will be saved since they believe? If this is true you are an idiot.
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First of all, let me clarify. To have salvation we must truly believe and follow the christian lifestyle. First you have to understand that the KKK are extremists and what they did does not align with the word of God. However, I am a black male and I say this from my heart, No matter what they have done as long as they change their ways, understand the life of Christ and ask for forgiveness then will they be saved. What I meant by believing in God is that you actually understand the life of Christ, something the KKK's did not. To believe in Christ, means to be a new creature, all old things have passed away. Therefore, to believe means to align with the word of god and actually understand that god didn't hate black people, because he created them in his own image. Obviously the KKK's didn't understand that concept therefore I believe they didn't "truly believe" Jesus Christ isn't a god of confusion, and as Christians they could have easy asked god for guidiance and for help to understand the word of god. Program Choices :
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I am a student and I am religious too but I am not superstitious that believe anything without proofs,I want reason and proof behind everything.
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Siwalge wrote:OscarUK wrote:Siwalge wrote:OscarUK wrote:Surely by high school age people are a bit old to have imaginary friends? Alright, let's try and keep the conversation polite. No need to bash the beliefs of others. On the contrary, I am more than entitled to express my opinions. If you would prefer me to put them in less sarcastic and plainer terms then I am more than happy to oblige... Religion in every form is misguided, dangerous and fundamentally wrong and anyone who "believes" is living in a dream world. If someone chooses to "believe" and keep that to themselves then so be it, but unfortunately a vast amount of the world's problems today can be traced back to people's "beliefs" the world would be an infinitely better place without it. As I say these are my opinions, take it or leave it... couldn't care less. Well apparently you could care less. Much less. Otherwise, you wouldn't be blatently attacking the thing that so many people find so much comfort in. Sure, religion has been and still is misguided, but I believe the scale of good and evil is balanced rather evenly. I am by no means religious. I share your enthusiasm for the 'dream world' scenario, but that does not give me the right to belittle the beliefs of others. This was a simple thread about what people believe in, and that is why I asked you to keep your conversation polite. You asked that religious people keep their beliefs to themselves? I think you should take your own advice. ^^^ This, well said.
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I will admit that I am a christian and I have been and will be for my whole life. I am aware of the evoloution theories, but I choose not to believe science. This whole conversation has gotten quite out of hand and ridiculous, there's no need to force a concept or to prove anyone wrong this was just a question that was to be simply answered. I for one believe that everyone has the right to their own opinions and therefore will not argue with anyone on here about the topics. It's very contraversial so please stop the arguments!
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Rank: Senior Student Joined: 4/21/2012 Posts: 97
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Yes,I am very religious and I am Hindu but I think sometimes faith in god is more louder than just performing customs.
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I don't understand how anyone can honestly believe in religion. I respect peoples' opinions and as long as they don't physically harm me or others because of them, I could care less what they think.
I mean, all of these religions are just little stories told over thousands of years that are just that, little stories.
Some extreme Christians always mention "accepting Christ" and I mean this is just a bunch of silliness. Why should I "accept" (which doesn't even mean anything) someone who might or might not have existed a long time ago? It doesn't mean anything lol.
However, again, the idea of religion has been hammered in our species' heads for so long that even today there are people who have been raised, brought into this world, with this idea set in stone by their family. I can't force anyone to change their opinions, they have to do it on their own. So, yeah, I have nothing against religious people, as long as they don't ruin life for other people.
EDIT: A good case in which religion is just a horrible thing is in North Carolina. People actually believe that their bible is telling them that gay people are bad and shouldn't get married! Aside from the fact that it is not even in the Government's power to make that decision, some of these religious people actually go out of their way just to ruin the idea of marriage for gay couples.
I mean.. why? What kind of evil person goes out of their way to ruin marriage for people. It's sickening.
EDIT 2: Ok, I do believe that it is possible for their to be some form of a creator, but instead of following wacky rules, we should be searching to find out if it's true.
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kelso547 wrote:I will admit that I am a christian and I have been and will be for my whole life. I am aware of the evoloution theories, but I choose not to believe science. This whole conversation has gotten quite out of hand and ridiculous, there's no need to force a concept or to prove anyone wrong this was just a question that was to be simply answered. I for one believe that everyone has the right to their own opinions and therefore will not argue with anyone on here about the topics. It's very contraversial so please stop the arguments! Not to be mean but if you walked into a room with 5 people, 3 that are sitting in the corner hitting themselves, and 2 that are fighting over the color of the walls, would you try to tell them that just outside the room there is a beautiful garden to play in? I think the arguments over religion are very important and necessary. We need to exchange ideas and collaborate to get the best out of life. Again, I respect you as a person and you do deserve every opportunity to live your life how you want, but you shouldn't be opposed to others sharing ideas. (also, I apologize, but I "lol'd" at your line, "I choose not to believe science.")
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I broke away from the teachings of religion around six years ago. I follow Dawkins' definition of agnostic atheism: the chances, according to what we know and what has been proven, of a god existing or having existed at one point approaches zero -- but you cannot say zero. If we don't have an answer to a question, you can't simply jump to fill the gap with gods. That's why I tend to refuse to answer the question "How did we get here?" or others of the like... I don't know, you don't know, and it's unnecessary to blindly speculate and form an unsubstantiated conclusion. Coincidences happen much more often than you think, as well... Accepted - Mount Allison, Honours Physics & Mathematics, '16
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Personally, religion seems to be very... subjective. I was raised in a Catholic school, so for 12 years I went to mass and learned about Christianity. And I'm been having some issues with it... I'm straight, but what if I was gay? No Heaven for me? I have trouble aligning myself with a religion that can't tolerate others, much less love everyone. In my opinion, buddhism has it right. Life is suffering. But they have guidelines (precepts) to follow - no hard rules, 'do this or you are a bad Catholic/Jew/Muslim' etc. etc. That's my two cents. Applied to:
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philosorunner wrote:Personally, religion seems to be very... subjective. I was raised in a Catholic school, so for 12 years I went to mass and learned about Christianity. And I'm been having some issues with it... I'm straight, but what if I was gay? No Heaven for me? I have trouble aligning myself with a religion that can't tolerate others, much less love everyone.
In my opinion, buddhism has it right. Life is suffering. But they have guidelines (precepts) to follow - no hard rules, 'do this or you are a bad Catholic/Jew/Muslim' etc. etc. That's my two cents. Exactly. Buddhism isn't a belief system, it's a way to experience life. I have the highest respect for it. Siddhartha actually became the Buddha through his failure at religion. He saw that the ascetic practices he'd been engaged in were not leading him to true liberation, and so he left them behind.
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KingJW wrote:I'm a Christian and a son of a pastor.
I lacked faith earlier but now I feel that I have a relationship with Jesus Christ.
The problem with religion is that its set on standards that you have to fulfil and that makes people feel worthless if they don't meet those standards.
Christianity is a relationship, not a religion for me.
Christianity is the only one based on the idea that it's God searching for you, not man searching for god.
Therefore anything we do as a saved or unsaved will be forgiven.
All you need to do is believe in him (salvation).
Not attacking the Catholic church, but I don't like how they think a believer to must do faith and other works to get to heaven, or they have a pope.
I also believe in Christian Libertarian principles. Ron Paul! I don't mean to offend you in any shape or form but how the heck do you reconcile worshiping a quasi-communist and supporting a libertarian at the same time? I'd imagine that as you Christian you ideally would have socialist tendencies. Also I am a fourth generation atheist. I don't really care much about what someone believes in except when it infringes on others or gets ridiculous (ie 90's science/math student believing evolution is a hoax...). APPLIED TO:
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