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How much do grade 11 courses count for admission? Options
karbear32
#1 Posted : Wednesday, June 13, 2012 1:04:51 AM
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I got like 70 in english 11
like 68 in pre-calc 11

all my other grade 11 marks are 78-90 range.


If i get like 80-90s in grade 12 could i still get in to like stfx, dal, uvic, queens arts?



i have 10000 EC's
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karbear32
#2 Posted : Wednesday, June 13, 2012 1:31:21 PM
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also i meant to ask should i retake my grade 11 courses?
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University of Toronto: Social Sciences + Vic One (Pearson Stream)
Carleton University: Honours Science
University of British Columbia: Arts
Milkberry
#3 Posted : Wednesday, June 13, 2012 3:19:20 PM
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You might just make it to UVic but read their entrance average just in case.
To guarantee yourself to be safe, you should be 3~5% higher than the entrance average, because the number of applicants vary each year.
I think you should definitely redo English. You should try to get at least 80s in that if you're trying to get into Arts or Humanities.
Then again, if you don't mind being waitlisted or not getting early acceptances, you can just not redo anything
Milkberry
#4 Posted : Wednesday, June 13, 2012 3:20:45 PM
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As for Queen's, that's definitely impossible because they have such high standards.
Grade 11 marks counts ALOT because they don't have your complete gr.12 courses when you apply.
laurenwm
#5 Posted : Monday, June 18, 2012 5:13:51 PM
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I'm in grade 11 too, and my teachers/guidance counsellor/friends in university have told me that grade 11 marks count a lot. Universities pick your 2 highest marks from grade 11, and pick your 4 grade 12 marks from first semester (not sure how it works for non-semestered schools, they probably just pick your top 6 from all 8 courses), and make an average. So for example, my 2 highest marks this year are a 95 and a 93, so those are going to go towards my average for university. Then my 4 classes from grade 12 will be added in, and an average will be made. Now if you have a spare first semester, they'll be looking at 3 grade 11 marks and your 3 grade 12 marks. It all depends on your schedule. I would definitely consider redoing english, because I have an 84 in english this year and my guidance counsellor said that at least an 80 should be required for university students going into arts, like myself. Good luck!
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MattUK
#6 Posted : Tuesday, June 19, 2012 3:34:39 PM
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I'm going to have to disagree with the previous posters.
I had a rebellious, somewhat "personal identity" crisis in Grade 11, and decided not to do any schoolwork or write any tests. Consequently, my grades were poor - low sixties, if I recall.

In Grade 12, I realised that, still being an academically-inclined person, I ought to go to university. So I put in the effort and came out with stellar grades - top of my year.

Incidentally, I got into every university to which I applied, which included Queen's, U of T, McGill and McMaster.

In less anecdotal terms, what I'm try to say is that the application process is often misunderstood by both Secondary School students and Secondary School staff. The process through which your academic merit is determined does not rely soley on Gr. 11 marks (as some suggest), nor even in part on Gr. 11 marks. For early acceptance, Gr. 11 is considered. For all other purposes, your performance in Gr. 12 is the only factor on which you're evaluated.

Best of luck to all.
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PJ
#7 Posted : Tuesday, July 10, 2012 8:59:45 AM
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MattUK wrote:
I'm going to have to disagree with the previous posters.
I had a rebellious, somewhat "personal identity" crisis in Grade 11, and decided not to do any schoolwork or write any tests. Consequently, my grades were poor - low sixties, if I recall.

In Grade 12, I realised that, still being an academically-inclined person, I ought to go to university. So I put in the effort and came out with stellar grades - top of my year.

Incidentally, I got into every university to which I applied, which included Queen's, U of T, McGill and McMaster.

In less anecdotal terms, what I'm try to say is that the application process is often misunderstood by both Secondary School students and Secondary School staff. The process through which your academic merit is determined does not rely soley on Gr. 11 marks (as some suggest), nor even in part on Gr. 11 marks. For early acceptance, Gr. 11 is considered. For all other purposes, your performance in Gr. 12 is the only factor on which you're evaluated.

Best of luck to all.


You are bang on! I have worked in recruitment/admissions for the last 21 years and this is perhaps the most misunderstood part of the admissions process. In Ontario, Grade 11 marks are used by some institutions to help evaluate applicants early in the cycle, when grades are not available for the necessary Grade 12 courses. However, having had a poor performance in Grade 11 will not stop you from gaining admission. It may just mean that you have to wait for your offer/decision until at least after first semester Grade 12 grades become available.
Paula Johnson
Assistant Director, Student Recruitment
Enrolment Services, McMaster University
kyleigh711
#8 Posted : Wednesday, July 11, 2012 5:36:27 PM
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Posts: 89
PJ wrote:
MattUK wrote:
I'm going to have to disagree with the previous posters.
I had a rebellious, somewhat "personal identity" crisis in Grade 11, and decided not to do any schoolwork or write any tests. Consequently, my grades were poor - low sixties, if I recall.

In Grade 12, I realised that, still being an academically-inclined person, I ought to go to university. So I put in the effort and came out with stellar grades - top of my year.

Incidentally, I got into every university to which I applied, which included Queen's, U of T, McGill and McMaster.

In less anecdotal terms, what I'm try to say is that the application process is often misunderstood by both Secondary School students and Secondary School staff. The process through which your academic merit is determined does not rely soley on Gr. 11 marks (as some suggest), nor even in part on Gr. 11 marks. For early acceptance, Gr. 11 is considered. For all other purposes, your performance in Gr. 12 is the only factor on which you're evaluated.

Best of luck to all.


You are bang on! I have worked in recruitment/admissions for the last 21 years and this is perhaps the most misunderstood part of the admissions process. In Ontario, Grade 11 marks are used by some institutions to help evaluate applicants early in the cycle, when grades are not available for the necessary Grade 12 courses. However, having had a poor performance in Grade 11 will not stop you from gaining admission. It may just mean that you have to wait for your offer/decision until at least after first semester Grade 12 grades become available.


^ This is true for Ontarians looking to stay in Ontario, but that's irrelevant to the OP because they are looking at schools across Canada.

@karbear32: You'll need to check the requirements for your program of interest at each school. At first glance I would guess that your grade 11 marks won't matter at Dal, Queens, or STFX, but I can't say for sure without knowing where you're from. For UVic your grade 11 marks might matter, but their entrance averages don't seem very high so your grade 11 marks shouldn't stop you from getting in.
TeaL3
#9 Posted : Monday, July 23, 2012 9:09:44 PM
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no biggie, just grade 11. I did horrible in grade 11... i think my average was a 62. University only use grade 11 marks for early admission in freb and you more or less need like... 90's for that. otherwise, they generally look at your grade 12 marks.
Applied To:

University of Toronto - Social Sciences [POLITICAL SCIENCE] accepted (May 16, 2012)
York University - International BA [POLITICAL SCIENCE (BA)] accepted (February 24, 2012)
University of Ottawa - Social Sciences(CO-OP) [PUBLIC ADMIN/POLITICAL SCIENCE] accepted (February 23, 2012)
Ryerson University - Politics and Governance accepted (May 3, 2012)
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Current Average: 84.6%
Current English Mark: 75%
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Attending:
University of Toronto (St.George)
St.Michael's for Social Science
IBKid55
#10 Posted : Tuesday, July 24, 2012 2:13:31 PM
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Joined: 12/25/2011
Posts: 101
LOL @ the above posters who said grade 11 marks count for 'a lot." So does that mean if I pull a 95 average in grade 11 but get 50s in grade 12 I will be able to make it any program I choose early in the school year?..I know plenty of people of got 60s in grade 11 for the sole reason that grade 11 marks mean jack to universities, later getting 90s in grade 12. Early Admission dosent really exist in Canada, in the US they have the true early admission policy where you can only apply to 1 school (Early Decision) and if you get in you may have to (for ED) or may not have (for Early Action) go there. It's done that way because not as many applicants apply to that specific school for early decision so the admission rates are a lot better for the applicant. In Canada, Admissions is done on a rolling basis. Plus no one could care less what month you got into universities, the fact that you got into is what matters.
Applying to [Fall 2012]:

University of Calgary (Biological Sciences , Health Sciences Status: Applied
University of Alberta (General Sciences)


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