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Rank: Senior Student
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YourAvgKid wrote:Uft is like all asian. (People that study 24.7 with no life and still get bad grades). This is the information people keep telling me. I live in Toronto.
But I geuss that's the reason why Uft has a better rep internationally, even though queen's already has a amazing rep. some international asian kids might have no life, but many of them have KICKASSSSSS gpa ...
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Rank: Senior Student
Joined: 2/18/2011
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ekky, if you want to work in international relations, you will most likely have to travel and live in many places, so being able to adapt and deal with different environments is a key skill, one that no class room will teach you. Dont worry about Kingston being small, we have a great time at Queens and the community is great, you will have a good time here. The decisions is up to you, i will not suggest one over another but we would be happy to have you at queens. Queen's Commerce 2014
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Rank: Senior Student  Joined: 3/7/2011 Posts: 74
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I'm curious, where have you decided? I'm an arts (education) student from Toronto, and I am going to attend Queen's. honestly, the largest city in Canada, Toronto, population 5 million (GTA)...compared to 13 mil in Moscow? We're still gonna feel like a small smalll smallllll cramped place to you. Queen's arts is harder than UT arts to get in. >=D We're more selective! We pick students not only based on their academics, but we also select them based on things outside of the class room. And c'mon, one's called QUEEN'S, and one is just called "UT". O: anyways!! hahahahaha, enough of my biases. Where have you picked? =D Queen's Con-current Education. =)
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Rank: Valedictorian  Joined: 12/13/2010 Posts: 681
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Omok wrote:
honestly, the largest city in Canada, Toronto, population 5 million (GTA)...compared to 13 mil in Moscow? We're still gonna feel like a small smalll smallllll cramped place to you.
I doubt it would make much of a difference in downtown Toronto. Kingston,yes. Perpetually hungry.
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Rank: Student Council
Joined: 3/13/2011
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Using ECAs is a Canadian thing. I highly doubt the Russian education system places much emphasis on activities outside normal school instruction. That's how it should be.
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Rank: Student Body President  Joined: 12/20/2010 Posts: 1,288
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LRooke wrote:Using ECAs is a Canadian thing. I highly doubt the Russian education system places much emphasis on activities outside normal school instruction. That's how it should be. Why? Everyone at university should be a bookworm with no social life or extracurriculars? I agree that academics should definitely be the main criterion for admissions, but I think sports, clubs, volunteering, etc. should count as well to an extent. I'd rather go to a school with well-rounded individuals. Also, Canadian unis barely consider extracurriculars at all. Go the States and see how much more they matter there.
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Rank: Student Council
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ECAs can be a curriculum requirement, like in foreign education systems. They make it almost cumpulsory for a student to take part in at least 1 full-time sports team, club, or Uniformed group. You can even have school-level community involvement to ensure that students are 'good citizens'. This emphasis on self-motivated good citizenry is silly and does not take into account the fact that the student cannot join a team or group because of a valid reason! Universities should not measure from an unequal scale. It would be much better if everyone did the exact same amount of social work, and then are ranked on basis of their academic achivement.
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Rank: Student Body President Joined: 12/20/2010 Posts: 1,288
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LRooke wrote:ECAs can be a curriculum requirement, like in foreign education systems. They make it almost cumpulsory for a student to take part in at least 1 full-time sports team, club, or Uniformed group. You can even have school-level community involvement to ensure that students are 'good citizens'. This emphasis on self-motivated good citizenry is silly and does not take into account the fact that the student cannot join a team or group because of a valid reason! Universities should not measure from an unequal scale. It would be much better if everyone did the exact same amount of social work, and then are ranked on basis of their academic achivement. Sounds communist. I think people should be acknowledged for their individual achievements. If it's all compulsory then you might as well not do it at all. I agree that lots of people do only participate in ECs for scholarships/admissions, but standardizing it simplifies it too much. Someone with a 95 average and no ECs should not be picked over someone with a 93 average who's captain of the basketball team and volunteers at a hospital.
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Rank: Student Council
Joined: 3/13/2011
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You make everyone equal, you eliminate the headache in choosing applicants.
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Rank: Student Body President
Joined: 6/3/2011
Posts: 2,118
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If everyone is equal then it is impossible to choose
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Rank: Student Body President Joined: 12/20/2010 Posts: 1,288
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^ Exactly. How would making everyone the same make it easier? Completely backwards logic...typical communist.
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Rank: Student Council
Joined: 3/13/2011
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If everyone is equal Extracurricular-wise, just like I have been stressing. You standardize and supervise ECAs, you eliminate the need to imperfectly weigh people based on their 'extra-academic achivements', and you eliminate glory hounds who get into volunteering for less-than-altruistic reasons.
And please don't bring economic schools of thought into this discussion, and I will ask you to refrain from ad hominem attacks.
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Rank: Student Body President
Joined: 6/3/2011
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I think ECs are just as important, if not more, than marks. Why not do the opposite? Make everyone equal marks-wise and then judge only based on ECs. That's just as ridiculous as what you are suggesting.
The people who are winning the major scholarships aren't glory hounds. Even if they maybe got into volunteering for the wrong reasons, you don't dedicate that amount of time and effort just for a scholarship.
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Rank: Student Body President Joined: 12/20/2010 Posts: 1,288
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LRooke wrote:And please don't bring economic schools of thought into this discussion, and I will ask you to refrain from ad hominem attacks. The communist thing is an analogy, and not an inaccurate one at that. Your argument is so ridiculous it doesn't even merit a legitimate response, though you've received one from ktel. It honestly just sounds like you didn't do any ECs and missed out on scholarships, so now you're all bitter.
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Rank: Frosh  Joined: 1/2/2011 Posts: 13
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Zion wrote:LRooke wrote:And please don't bring economic schools of thought into this discussion, and I will ask you to refrain from ad hominem attacks. The communist thing is an analogy, and not an inaccurate one at that. Your argument is so ridiculous it doesn't even merit a legitimate response, though you've received one from ktel. It honestly just sounds like you didn't do any ECs and missed out on scholarships, so now you're all bitter. hahaha i wish there was a like button! LIKE Queens University 2015
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