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Police Foundations Options
ARMY101
#1 Posted : Thursday, October 06, 2011 2:40:30 AM
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#2 Posted : Friday, October 07, 2011 9:39:49 PM
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My brother wants to go to Sheridan for police foundantions (Brampton campus)Thats the only policing program I know of lol.
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#3 Posted : Monday, October 10, 2011 10:43:32 AM
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Conestoga College's program is pretty good. First year is Law and Security (they changed it to some long name but it';s the same thing) and Police Foundations combined. Then after first year you apply to either Police Foundations 2nd year or Law and Security 2nd year, after getting to know more about where each path could take you (as long as your marks are fine you will get in no problem). It's at the Doon campus (Kitchener).

Problem solved.
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#4 Posted : Thursday, November 24, 2011 11:01:19 AM
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g93 wrote:
Conestoga College's program is pretty good. First year is Law and Security (they changed it to some long name but it';s the same thing) and Police Foundations combined. Then after first year you apply to either Police Foundations 2nd year or Law and Security 2nd year, after getting to know more about where each path could take you (as long as your marks are fine you will get in no problem). It's at the Doon campus (Kitchener).

Problem solved.


This is bang on correct! I actually just applied to Conestoga college, their p[rogram is terrific. I looked at many other schools but found conestoga had more to offer. Also if you plan on working during your college years they have job offers strictly for security/police foundation students.
Other schools to look at are
-Algonquin
-Fanshawe
-Canadore
-Niagra
-Durham
-Seneca
-Loyalist
-Mohawk
-Sheridan
There are 19 different schools to look at.
I highly recommend Conestoga, their program is above and beyond so many othersl. Also the campus is really nice. Feel free to message me if you would like to know more about this :) I have already done all my research and viosited the campuses.
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Medic93
#5 Posted : Tuesday, December 27, 2011 12:03:07 PM
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In my opinion, I don't think Police Foundations is going to make yourself competitive when trying to get hired for a major Police Service or Law Enforcement in general. They'll train you in the academy their own way in terms of all the fundamentals you'll need. The only thing I saw Police Foundations good for is the Physical testing they put you through to prepare you. If anything I'd suggest getting a Bachelors degree in Criminology, Criminal Justice, or Law to improve your prospective's of getting into the Police Academy.
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g93
#6 Posted : Tuesday, December 27, 2011 4:36:29 PM
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Medic93 wrote:
In my opinion, I don't think Police Foundations is going to make yourself competitive when trying to get hired for a major Police Service or Law Enforcement in general. They'll train you in the academy their own way in terms of all the fundamentals you'll need. The only thing I saw Police Foundations good for is the Physical testing they put you through to prepare you. If anything I'd suggest getting a Bachelors degree in Criminology, Criminal Justice, or Law to improve your prospective's of getting into the Police Academy.

The Police Foudations doesn't teach things that will be re-learned at police college. You take things such as Criminal Code, Traffic Management, Criminology and Pyschology.

Conestoga College students have the highest chance of becoming getting into a police force. There is a lot of recruitment for security jobs and related things as well.

A criminology program really doesn't give you a major advantage. It's 3-4 years as well. You could be doing better things in that time. Some uselss arts electives combined with some theoretical courses on crime and international law don't really mean a whole lot.

What would be better than a criminology degree would be a trade. Become an electrician, work for a few years, then apply to some police forces as a more mature applicant with some really important technical knowledge. Both the police and fire department (more so for the fire department) love trades.
Medic93
#7 Posted : Tuesday, December 27, 2011 5:22:50 PM
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g93 wrote:
Medic93 wrote:
In my opinion, I don't think Police Foundations is going to make yourself competitive when trying to get hired for a major Police Service or Law Enforcement in general. They'll train you in the academy their own way in terms of all the fundamentals you'll need. The only thing I saw Police Foundations good for is the Physical testing they put you through to prepare you. If anything I'd suggest getting a Bachelors degree in Criminology, Criminal Justice, or Law to improve your prospective's of getting into the Police Academy.

The Police Foudations doesn't teach things that will be re-learned at police college. You take things such as Criminal Code, Traffic Management, Criminology and Pyschology.

Conestoga College students have the highest chance of becoming getting into a police force. There is a lot of recruitment for security jobs and related things as well.

A criminology program really doesn't give you a major advantage. It's 3-4 years as well. You could be doing better things in that time. Some uselss arts electives combined with some theoretical courses on crime and international law don't really mean a whole lot.

What would be better than a criminology degree would be a trade. Become an electrician, work for a few years, then apply to some police forces as a more mature applicant with some really important technical knowledge. Both the police and fire department (more so for the fire department) love trades.


Interesting, thanks for providing me with further insight onto this topic cause I didn't know that. So you are saying a Bachelors degree isn't really going to help and that experience or police foundations is generally going to make you more competitive?
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g93
#8 Posted : Tuesday, December 27, 2011 6:09:09 PM
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Medic93 wrote:
Interesting, thanks for providing me with further insight onto this topic cause I didn't know that. So you are saying a Bachelors degree isn't really going to help and that experience or police foundations is generally going to make you more competitive?

It's not that a bachelors degree will not be helpful, it's just that it won't be giving you a distinct advantage. They do value degrees, I was just mentioning that the other alternatives are really no worse. As long as you focus on building your resume (whether it be through the army, auxiliary, volunteering, traveling, job experience, or other skills).
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#9 Posted : Tuesday, December 27, 2011 6:44:29 PM
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I know quite a few people who did Police Foundations, only one of whom has actually become a police officer (and I'm sure a lot of the reason he got on the force was because of his experience working at the border, and he was willing to go anywhere in Canada with the RCMP). Personally, I think it is a waste-of-time-and-money diploma. Too many people do it for such few jobs that are available. If you'd be happy ending up as a security guard, then go for it; otherwise, like g93 said, do something more practical and then apply to police forces (around the country).

Also, remember that police forces around the country are looking for certain personalities. If you're not a calm, collected, mature, and assertive person who has a genuine interest in enforcing the law and excellent communication skills, then you're not going to make the cut.
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g93
#10 Posted : Wednesday, December 28, 2011 11:14:10 AM
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mynameismattgotmlgo wrote:
I know quite a few people who did Police Foundations, only one of whom has actually become a police officer (and I'm sure a lot of the reason he got on the force was because of his experience working at the border, and he was willing to go anywhere in Canada with the RCMP). Personally, I think it is a waste-of-time-and-money diploma. Too many people do it for such few jobs that are available. If you'd be happy ending up as a security guard, then go for it; otherwise, like g93 said, do something more practical and then apply to police forces (around the country).

Also, remember that police forces around the country are looking for certain personalities. If you're not a calm, collected, mature, and assertive person who has a genuine interest in enforcing the law and excellent communication skills, then you're not going to make the cut.

Some police foundations programs are better than others, but one of the major reasons why many graduates fail to get jobs is that they think that because they are in "police foundations" they will become a police officer simply by graduating. Completely not true. But yes, I do think that for the majority of people they are setting themselves up for failure by going through a police foundations program.

And yes, the interview process is lengthy and it does take the right person. Some of those personality/psychology questions in the aptitude tests are pretty messed up too.
Medic93
#11 Posted : Thursday, December 29, 2011 6:37:30 PM
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Alright I talked to some people who are actually in Policing (Family) and from what I know is that a combination of various things will help out big in Policing. An undergraduate degree will help in terms of knowledge and in my opinion is a nice foundation. Something to consider is Auxiliary Policing or some type of volunteering that'd make you directly involved with a police service such as Victim Service Volunteering. Even working a Security type job on the side or in the summer while you complete your formal education isn't a bad thing. I know a relative of mine worked for BRINKS transferring money before getting hired for the OPP. Education is education, but it's true that relevant experience will get you far!
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g93
#12 Posted : Thursday, December 29, 2011 8:13:58 PM
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Medic93 wrote:
Alright I talked to some people who are actually in Policing (Family) and from what I know is that a combination of various things will help out big in Policing. An undergraduate degree will help in terms of knowledge and in my opinion is a nice foundation. Something to consider is Auxiliary Policing or some type of volunteering that'd make you directly involved with a police service such as Victim Service Volunteering. Even working a Security type job on the side or in the summer while you complete your formal education isn't a bad thing. I know a relative of mine worked for BRINKS transferring money before getting hired for the OPP. Education is education, but it's true that relevant experience will get you far!

Yep, they value auxiliary quite highly, and same as the Victim Service (although that has crappy hours usually).

If you're willing to go way far north for the OPP it's an easy in.

Also supposedly if you go into the military police for 3 years (minimum service time), any police force will be willing to hire you.

Related work experience is always good, and volunteering at homeless shelters or with troubled youth or something will be very beneficial. Traveling can also be valuable (and not just going to Disney with your family).
bebobop
#13 Posted : Thursday, January 05, 2012 10:55:32 AM
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I am getting mixed opinions here. It is very obvious that I will not get hired straight out of police foundations. I am well aware of that. I plan on taking police foundations and then getting a degree in criminology or something related. After that is all said and done (around 4 or 5 years) I will have a college diploma, university degree, and pleanty of volunteer work. I plan on going to college in Canada and university in the States. From there I can apply to the OPP, police forces, the RCMP and the military. I have spoken to a few people who have been recently hired as police officers and their opinion is that where you went to school (or what for) does not really matter same goes for volunteering. They care more about your attitude and determination.
Medic93
#14 Posted : Thursday, January 05, 2012 12:52:14 PM
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bebobop wrote:
I am getting mixed opinions here. It is very obvious that I will not get hired straight out of police foundations. I am well aware of that. I plan on taking police foundations and then getting a degree in criminology or something related. After that is all said and done (around 4 or 5 years) I will have a college diploma, university degree, and pleanty of volunteer work. I plan on going to college in Canada and university in the States. From there I can apply to the OPP, police forces, the RCMP and the military. I have spoken to a few people who have been recently hired as police officers and their opinion is that where you went to school (or what for) does not really matter same goes for volunteering. They care more about your attitude and determination.


Do what you think is best man, in the end its your plan and not ours.

I think getting a degree along with some kind of diploma is a good combination and the volunteering is a must!
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#15 Posted : Thursday, February 09, 2012 10:55:03 AM
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