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computerengineer wrote:For ECE in waterloo, do you think I should choose stream 4 or stream 8. I have hear good and bad things about both. But which one do you think will get me the better chance of finding a job? My finances depend on the coop money I earn. There's no definite answer. 4 stream is tough because you start applying to jobs as soon as you get on campus. However, it's quite competitive to get a co-op in 8 stream. I would say if you feel you have some nice relevant skills right now that will give you an advantage for 4 stream, you should go with that. Else I would say take some time to develop your skills and go for 8 stream. Also, 8 months straight of UW Math/CS/Eng is tough especially in your first year. I know a lot of people who just ran out of gas. But really I don't think you can go wrong with either.
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immaculatedx wrote:Vincentwzu wrote:Hi,
I'm going into chemical engineering and have decided on Waterloo. I've got some questions concerning the cooperative education program.
Will programming experience and knowledge of programming languages help with finding a job which relates to chemical engineering?
I was initially planning to do Mechatronics however realized that I have no programming experience and wasn't sure if I was able to teach myself a programming language- looking at strings of code make me kind of dizzy to be honest...
Thus I decided to go into chemistry and changed my application from mechatronics to chemical. However, I am willing to learn a bit of programming if it will benefit me and help me succeed.
If programming knowledge does make a difference, could you suggest a language which would be worth learning? Programming is very useful for anything these days but I really don't know if it is that applicable to Chemical Engineering. I do remember one chemical engineer telling me how his programming skills helped him stand out in one of his coops. I don't think programming experience is necessary. They teach it from scratch. If you chose Chem Eng over Tron only because you're scared of something you haven't even tried, I really think you're making the wrong decision. Thanks for the advice! To be honest, I have never really even considered being a chemical engineer until this year. I've always been set on mechanical or tron. However, I wanted to be able to apply my passion for chemistry. In addition, I find that chemical engineering is probably the most unique of all disciplines in the sense that it draws from such a vast science. University of Waterloo
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How is the CS program at UTSG? If you want to work in the industry in companies such as Google, Apple, Microsoft, does CS at UTSG prepare you for that or is it really theoretical and abstract? Also how difficult is it to get an internship through the PEY program at UTSG? http://db.tt/mzmbafUh --> Use this to sign up for DropBox! I get 500MB every time someone signs up using my link!
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Anonymous12 wrote:How is the CS program at UTSG? If you want to work in the industry in companies such as Google, Apple, Microsoft, does CS at UTSG prepare you for that or is it really theoretical and abstract? Also how difficult is it to get an internship through the PEY program at UTSG? I know quite a few people who worked for those companies from UT. Most of them were from Engineering though but some were from CS. I think most of these internships were not from PEY though - they were just summer internships. So yes, a lot of those companies do recruit from UT. I know what the PEY is, but don't know much about how it actually works to be honest.
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immaculatedx wrote:computerengineer wrote:For ECE in waterloo, do you think I should choose stream 4 or stream 8. I have hear good and bad things about both. But which one do you think will get me the better chance of finding a job? My finances depend on the coop money I earn. There's no definite answer. 4 stream is tough because you start applying to jobs as soon as you get on campus. However, it's quite competitive to get a co-op in 8 stream. I would say if you feel you have some nice relevant skills right now that will give you an advantage for 4 stream, you should go with that. Else I would say take some time to develop your skills and go for 8 stream. Also, 8 months straight of UW Math/CS/Eng is tough especially in your first year. I know a lot of people who just ran out of gas. But really I don't think you can go wrong with either. Thanks for the answer. I just wanted to ask you what exactly you mean by relevant skills. What do employers look for in most first year students. Is knowing C++ or some other programming knowledge a big thing? Then, I can start that in the summer. Is having other work experience (like working in retail stores) an asset? or does it mean very little. I know we have a programming course on term 1A and dont have any in term 1B. Does that programming course help a lot on getting a job first year? Im really confused on what skills I should work on during the summer in order to make myself prepared for first year co-op job. Waterloo Computer Engineering
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immaculatedx wrote:dsfsteve wrote:[quote=immaculatedx]I know of a person who did this. He got an alternate to CS to Geomatics. Instead of taking the Geomatics courses, He took all the required CS courses and did alright and was able to transfer.
It's a risk that's up to you to take. Do you know, approximately, how well you would have to do in first year to be able to transfer? "Generally, you will be admissible if you have a cumulative overall average above 70, and strong grades in at least three mathematics/computer science courses taken at the university level, two or fewer failed courses, and three or fewer withdrawals (WDs)." http://www.math.uwaterlo...transfer_internal.shtml[/quote] Is there the possibility that the computer science program is too full to transfer in the second year? (Or perhaps some other reason that is not because of low marks?)
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computerengineer wrote:immaculatedx wrote:computerengineer wrote:For ECE in waterloo, do you think I should choose stream 4 or stream 8. I have hear good and bad things about both. But which one do you think will get me the better chance of finding a job? My finances depend on the coop money I earn. There's no definite answer. 4 stream is tough because you start applying to jobs as soon as you get on campus. However, it's quite competitive to get a co-op in 8 stream. I would say if you feel you have some nice relevant skills right now that will give you an advantage for 4 stream, you should go with that. Else I would say take some time to develop your skills and go for 8 stream. Also, 8 months straight of UW Math/CS/Eng is tough especially in your first year. I know a lot of people who just ran out of gas. But really I don't think you can go wrong with either. Thanks for the answer. I just wanted to ask you what exactly you mean by relevant skills. What do employers look for in most first year students. Is knowing C++ or some other programming knowledge a big thing? Then, I can start that in the summer. Is having other work experience (like working in retail stores) an asset? or does it mean very little. I know we have a programming course on term 1A and dont have any in term 1B. Does that programming course help a lot on getting a job first year? Im really confused on what skills I should work on during the summer in order to make myself prepared for first year co-op job. C++ is pretty useful. I believe you guys do C in 1A - I could be wrong though. The programming course for 4-stream programs are pretty useful though from what I've been told. You can work on learning a language on your own, I doubt you'll be able to accomplish much. I didn't have any legitimate programming skills when I did my first year co-op interviews and still had 3 pretty good offers.
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dsfsteve wrote:immaculatedx wrote:dsfsteve wrote:immaculatedx wrote:I know of a person who did this. He got an alternate to CS to Geomatics. Instead of taking the Geomatics courses, He took all the required CS courses and did alright and was able to transfer.
It's a risk that's up to you to take. Do you know, approximately, how well you would have to do in first year to be able to transfer? "Generally, you will be admissible if you have a cumulative overall average above 70, and strong grades in at least three mathematics/computer science courses taken at the university level, two or fewer failed courses, and three or fewer withdrawals (WDs)." http://www.math.uwaterlo...transfer_internal.shtml Is there the possibility that the computer science program is too full to transfer in the second year? (Or perhaps some other reason that is not because of low marks?) Most likely not, they want your money.
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For a career in software engineering/programming, which is the better program overall, Software Engineering or Computer Science coop at Waterloo?
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beethoven123 wrote:For a career in software engineering/programming, which is the better program overall, Software Engineering or Computer Science coop at Waterloo? If you'll give the same effort, it'll be the same in my opinion. SE and CS students apply for the same jobs. Generally SE students are more keen so the average SE student will get a better job than the average CS student. No employer really cares that much whether you're in SE or CS.
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Could you tell me which one would be better in your opinion for ECE: waterloo or UofT. (UofT is one hour from my home and I have to commute everyday, which seems like a pain in the arse) My parents keep insisting me to go to UofT and telling me that commuting is nit a problem because many people who go to Ryerson/UofT does it everyday. Waterloo Computer Engineering
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jelly wrote:What's your opinion on SYDE? I've asked around a lot and it seems like a good all-around option for just about anything, grad school, employment straight out of undergrad, etc. SYDE is a trendy way of saying "general engineering". It's a pretty great program, from what I've heard. Obviously employable. Most people end up specializing in something, but get a broad background. beethoven123 wrote:For a career in software engineering/programming, which is the better program overall, Software Engineering or Computer Science coop at Waterloo? They're equivalent. Re: languages for software engineers, they do C in 1A and C++ in 1B. computerengineer: Commutes screwing suck, don't do it :|
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computerengineer wrote:Could you tell me which one would be better in your opinion for ECE: waterloo or UofT. (UofT is one hour from my home and I have to commute everyday, which seems like a pain in the arse) My parents keep insisting me to go to UofT and telling me that commuting is nit a problem because many people who go to Ryerson/UofT does it everyday. Commute sucks ass. ECE is great at both schools. It depends what kind of experience you're looking for.
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For all those who have sent me PMs: Unless the matter is something of utmost privacy, could you all post your questions in the thread instead? It helps bump the thread and also prevents repeated questions. Thanks.
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What's your opinion on Waterloo FARM as a program? How useful is a CFA in the financial industry?and how many student in their first year will be able to find a coop job? I am not sure if I should go all the way to Waterloo from BC for FARM's coop, or just stay at uvic and transfer to UBC commerce in upper years.
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mestabillo wrote:Do you have any info about McMaster Co-op Computer Science (reputation, job prospects, etc? Considering program reputation, campus life, environment and academics, would you rather attend UTSC Comp Sci Co-op or McMaster CS Co-op? Thanks! I don't know anyone in Mcmaster CS or UTSC CS, sorry.
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ViviC wrote:What's your opinion on Waterloo FARM as a program? How useful is a CFA in the financial industry?and how many student in their first year will be able to find a coop job? I am not sure if I should go all the way to Waterloo from BC for FARM's coop, or just stay at uvic and transfer to UBC commerce in upper years. The FARM program is just a Math program. It provides some courses that overlap with the CFA curriculum but what you and all the high school students don't understand is that anyone can study the CFA on their own - you don't have to go to a specialized program just for that. But UW undergrad Math is the best in the country.
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What is the most popular computer science work/study sequence? Why?
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todayistheday wrote:What is the most popular computer science work/study sequence? Why? Stream A because you get your summer co-op and you can alternate after first year. But your stream only matters for your first co-op term. After that you can switch to any custom sequence you like as long as its approved (So you can't just put 4 work terms in a row).
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