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aquarius wrote:
I've said somewhere in the earlier post , there is more to this acceptance at Mac than just your marks and supp. There has to be some kinda of unwritten admission quota that they have to fulfill hence the personal profile question in the application. Some of you were lucky , and some not. Compared to last year's post, it looks like almost 50% of people in this thread got in ! So Congratulations!!!!
Please read this. Written November 2010, by Del Harnish, Assistant Dean of BHSc, in response to a question about how the admissions process works. "Marks are weighted heavily initially. You have to meet teh 90% minimum. 1/3 of applicants are initially rejected this way without reviewing their supps. The others are scored on a seven point scale by three readers ( sometimes four). We start by accepting all supps rated seven, then 6 and so on. Someone with 99% and a rating of 4 will not get an offer. someone with a 94% and a 6 rating will get an offer........ We send out 230 offers for 160 positions. Teh norm in North America is to send out 4 or 5 offers for each slot. Our acceptance rates are the same as Harvard ( meaningless statistic) and you have roughly a 1/20 chance of getting in. For medical schools your chances are better than 1/4. More meaningless statistics....... So yes , it is a lottery as are all other admissions. We rely on teh supps to tell us something but know that it is not always reliable." It is not a perfect science. It is subjective. And if you can't handle subjective marking, or lack of defined structure and expectations, or group work, or having very few chances to "boost your grade", then you really would not enjoy BHSc. McMaster BHSc 2015
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minae1000 wrote:Uhm sorry :/ I dunno if i made you mad but you sound mad
I acknowledge the prereq's for health sci; i think all of us have read those at least 100 times ahah
but it ISN'T impossible. He had a 90 average when he applied- it just dropped so I guess maybe that's why.
I'm sure he had an epic essay though. Oh, I wasn't mad. Sorry if I came off that way. I thought Mac checked the avg's twice. The first time after the first midterms and then the second midterms. I don't know how Mac decides on the 90 so I'm just gonna leave it at that. Congrats to you and your friend though! mrdoctorsurgeon wrote:they really should do interviews because you dont get a feel for the people you are letting in with 4500 words -_-.. you just dont. My thoughts exactly. rosered93 wrote:aquarius wrote:
I've said somewhere in the earlier post , there is more to this acceptance at Mac than just your marks and supp. There has to be some kinda of unwritten admission quota that they have to fulfill hence the personal profile question in the application. Some of you were lucky , and some not. Compared to last year's post, it looks like almost 50% of people in this thread got in ! So Congratulations!!!!
Please read this. Written November 2010, by Del Harnish, Assistant Dean of BHSc, in response to a question about how the admissions process works. "Marks are weighted heavily initially. You have to meet teh 90% minimum. 1/3 of applicants are initially rejected this way without reviewing their supps. The others are scored on a seven point scale by three readers ( sometimes four). We start by accepting all supps rated seven, then 6 and so on. Someone with 99% and a rating of 4 will not get an offer. someone with a 94% and a 6 rating will get an offer........ We send out 230 offers for 160 positions. Teh norm in North America is to send out 4 or 5 offers for each slot. Our acceptance rates are the same as Harvard ( meaningless statistic) and you have roughly a 1/20 chance of getting in. For medical schools your chances are better than 1/4. More meaningless statistics....... So yes , it is a lottery as are all other admissions. We rely on teh supps to tell us something but know that it is not always reliable." It is not a perfect science. It is subjective. And if you can't handle subjective marking, or lack of defined structure and expectations, or group work, or having very few chances to "boost your grade", then you really would not enjoy BHSc. They should at the VERY least TELL US what we got on our supplementary applications or if our marks weren't good enough instead of some generic rejection saying "upon review of your academic record and supplementary we are not able to give you acceptance to this program"
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Hey this is kinda a dumb question but is there a health sci lounge? A place with pool and ping pong tables and stuff? McMaster Health Science 2016
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l3asketball wrote:Hey this is kinda a dumb question but is there a health sci lounge? A place with pool and ping pong tables and stuff? I heard there is! I'm pretty sure it's a pool table not a pool LOL It's some kind of health science hangout I believe :P McMaster Health Science
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LJustin wrote:
They should at the VERY least TELL US what we got on our supplementary applications or if our marks weren't good enough instead of some generic rejection saying "upon review of your academic record and supplementary we are not able to give you acceptance to this program"
While this would be nice, I think it would mean a lot of extra paperwork for the admissions staff. In addition, it's more of a privilege if they do ever decide to tell us our supp. applications marks, not a right. I'm fairly certain other universities, especially Ivy Leagues don't tell you what the admissions staff thought about your essays/applications. Heck, you definitely won't hear back from Med School about your mark on your interview/essays either. McMaster Health Science
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l3asketball wrote:Hey this is kinda a dumb question but is there a health sci lounge? A place with pool and ping pong tables and stuff? Yeah, there's a pool table, couches, tv, gaming console etc. No ping pong table unless they put one in since last year. McMaster Bachelor of Health Sciences 2011
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LJustin wrote:minae1000 wrote:Uhm sorry :/ I dunno if i made you mad but you sound mad
I acknowledge the prereq's for health sci; i think all of us have read those at least 100 times ahah
but it ISN'T impossible. He had a 90 average when he applied- it just dropped so I guess maybe that's why.
I'm sure he had an epic essay though. Oh, I wasn't mad. Sorry if I came off that way. I thought Mac checked the avg's twice. The first time after the first midterms and then the second midterms. I don't know how Mac decides on the 90 so I'm just gonna leave it at that. Congrats to you and your friend though! mrdoctorsurgeon wrote:they really should do interviews because you dont get a feel for the people you are letting in with 4500 words -_-.. you just dont. My thoughts exactly. rosered93 wrote:aquarius wrote:
I've said somewhere in the earlier post , there is more to this acceptance at Mac than just your marks and supp. There has to be some kinda of unwritten admission quota that they have to fulfill hence the personal profile question in the application. Some of you were lucky , and some not. Compared to last year's post, it looks like almost 50% of people in this thread got in ! So Congratulations!!!!
Please read this. Written November 2010, by Del Harnish, Assistant Dean of BHSc, in response to a question about how the admissions process works. "Marks are weighted heavily initially. You have to meet teh 90% minimum. 1/3 of applicants are initially rejected this way without reviewing their supps. The others are scored on a seven point scale by three readers ( sometimes four). We start by accepting all supps rated seven, then 6 and so on. Someone with 99% and a rating of 4 will not get an offer. someone with a 94% and a 6 rating will get an offer........ We send out 230 offers for 160 positions. Teh norm in North America is to send out 4 or 5 offers for each slot. Our acceptance rates are the same as Harvard ( meaningless statistic) and you have roughly a 1/20 chance of getting in. For medical schools your chances are better than 1/4. More meaningless statistics....... So yes , it is a lottery as are all other admissions. We rely on teh supps to tell us something but know that it is not always reliable." It is not a perfect science. It is subjective. And if you can't handle subjective marking, or lack of defined structure and expectations, or group work, or having very few chances to "boost your grade", then you really would not enjoy BHSc. They should at the VERY least TELL US what we got on our supplementary applications or if our marks weren't good enough instead of some generic rejection saying "upon review of your academic record and supplementary we are not able to give you acceptance to this program" Yea, I called them to see if they'd let me know the ranking of my app but they said it was classified infomation! :( Applied to:
Mcmaster- Honours Health Science I rejected
Mcmaster- LIfe Sciences I ACCEPTED!
Queens- Science ACCEPTED!
UTSG - Life Sciences [Human Biology- Neuroscience] ACCEPTED!
UTM - Life Science [Biology for Health Science] ACCEPTED!
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Euphenism1 wrote:l3asketball wrote:Hey this is kinda a dumb question but is there a health sci lounge? A place with pool and ping pong tables and stuff? I heard there is! I'm pretty sure it's a pool table not a pool LOL It's some kind of health science hangout I believe :P Lol ya I wasn't really sure how to say that. Isn't "Soccer and basketball jerseys" more correct than "soccer jerseys and basketball jerseys" though? And would there be enough room for a ping pong table if we were to get one? (I really like ping pong) :P McMaster Health Science 2016
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ilikebones wrote:mccannca466 wrote:Just wanted to say CONGRATULATIONS to all who were accepted! I know that many people say that "Hamilton sucks and is disgusting", but it's not that bad. Downtown is gross, but the areas around Mac (Dundas where I live, Ancaster) are very pretty. And the campus is gorgeous! If anyone has any questions about Mac, I can answer some; I work there and know some random stuff about the programs.
In regards to the program, ya alot of your marks will be subjective. That all ties in with Mac's pride in being PBL. You have case studies (and waaayyy more essays) rather than normal lectures for the most part.
And for all those who didn't get accepted, it's REALLY not the end of the world. I didn't even apply because I knew I wouldn't have a chance of getting in, but I have spoken with many of the professors who work in the med programs, health sci and life sci. Health sci does not give as much an advantage into med school as most people think. I have had professors tell me that while the program prepares you better for med school than a general science background, there is no guarantee that they will get in. One professor told me that "it's a great program, but it's not a free pass into med school by any means". So don't sweat it! There are plenty of options out there for you (I heard some of you are going to IVEY!) and there is more than 1 path to med school. Good luck to you all! :) the admission process is flawed and you know it. i know asians in my school that have english tutors and they paid them to write it for them. having that said, only one got in, but he(she) still scammed his way in. only people i actually have semi-respect for are the white people because they don't have this tutor bs but some of the apps that got in are still garbage If you want to generalize I'll do the same. The only people I DON'T have respect for are WHITE PEOPLE because you guys private school all your marks and cheat your way through life. Just wait a few years though, hard work and integrity pays off and Asians will rule the world. ;)
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xVidisha wrote:LJustin wrote:minae1000 wrote:Uhm sorry :/ I dunno if i made you mad but you sound mad
I acknowledge the prereq's for health sci; i think all of us have read those at least 100 times ahah
but it ISN'T impossible. He had a 90 average when he applied- it just dropped so I guess maybe that's why.
I'm sure he had an epic essay though. Oh, I wasn't mad. Sorry if I came off that way. I thought Mac checked the avg's twice. The first time after the first midterms and then the second midterms. I don't know how Mac decides on the 90 so I'm just gonna leave it at that. Congrats to you and your friend though! mrdoctorsurgeon wrote:they really should do interviews because you dont get a feel for the people you are letting in with 4500 words -_-.. you just dont. My thoughts exactly. rosered93 wrote:aquarius wrote:
I've said somewhere in the earlier post , there is more to this acceptance at Mac than just your marks and supp. There has to be some kinda of unwritten admission quota that they have to fulfill hence the personal profile question in the application. Some of you were lucky , and some not. Compared to last year's post, it looks like almost 50% of people in this thread got in ! So Congratulations!!!!
Please read this. Written November 2010, by Del Harnish, Assistant Dean of BHSc, in response to a question about how the admissions process works. "Marks are weighted heavily initially. You have to meet teh 90% minimum. 1/3 of applicants are initially rejected this way without reviewing their supps. The others are scored on a seven point scale by three readers ( sometimes four). We start by accepting all supps rated seven, then 6 and so on. Someone with 99% and a rating of 4 will not get an offer. someone with a 94% and a 6 rating will get an offer........ We send out 230 offers for 160 positions. Teh norm in North America is to send out 4 or 5 offers for each slot. Our acceptance rates are the same as Harvard ( meaningless statistic) and you have roughly a 1/20 chance of getting in. For medical schools your chances are better than 1/4. More meaningless statistics....... So yes , it is a lottery as are all other admissions. We rely on teh supps to tell us something but know that it is not always reliable." It is not a perfect science. It is subjective. And if you can't handle subjective marking, or lack of defined structure and expectations, or group work, or having very few chances to "boost your grade", then you really would not enjoy BHSc. They should at the VERY least TELL US what we got on our supplementary applications or if our marks weren't good enough instead of some generic rejection saying "upon review of your academic record and supplementary we are not able to give you acceptance to this program" Yea, I called them to see if they'd let me know the ranking of my app but they said it was classified infomation! :( Don't sweat it. It is pretty much a random lucky draw. If you are lucky you get in, otherwise you don't. It is the good marketing that get us all hyped up wanting to get in. It will probably be the same once you are in, it's all up to them to give you good marks if you are lucky because of the subjective marking scheme.
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l3asketball wrote:Euphenism1 wrote:l3asketball wrote:Hey this is kinda a dumb question but is there a health sci lounge? A place with pool and ping pong tables and stuff? I heard there is! I'm pretty sure it's a pool table not a pool LOL It's some kind of health science hangout I believe :P Lol ya I wasn't really sure how to say that. Isn't "Soccer and basketball jerseys" more correct than "soccer jerseys and basketball jerseys" though? And would there be enough room for a ping pong table if we were to get one? (I really like ping pong) :P LOL I see what you mean now :P The third "and" after "ping pong tables" and before "stuff" threw me off because I thought you were making a list of individual items with the "and" separating each of them :) McMaster Health Science
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can anyone already in health sci tell us about the inquiry project? my friend said it was difficult having to work with people you don't necessarily get along with, but that's life haha. do people generally get along within the program or are there cliques/ unspoken academic rivalries? i like the idea of escaping big city competition (u of t, mcgill), but now i'm a little worried about the peer dynamics at health sci. :S also, is it true that a lot of health sci kids think they're "elitist" or something? i have a hard time believing that, 'cause you guys all sound so nice!!! :( McGill | Biological, Biomedical and Life Sciences
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lesson1 wrote:can anyone already in health sci tell us about the inquiry project? my friend said it was difficult having to work with people you don't necessarily get along with, but that's life haha. do people generally get along within the program or are there cliques/ unspoken academic rivalries? i like the idea of escaping big city competition (u of t, mcgill), but now i'm a little worried about the peer dynamics at health sci. :S
also, is it true that a lot of health sci kids think they're "elitist" or something? i have a hard time believing that, 'cause you guys all sound so nice!!! :( Do you mean the first year Inquiry project? If so I can tell you about it, but if you mean the 3rd year one, I ofcourse can't tell you much about it. Basically, you will do term projects in Inquiry (so 2 in total) and about 4 group projects in Cell Biology 2nd semester and 1 TRIPSE (you'll learn what this is later) in first semester. So lots of group work. For the Inquiry projects (unlike Cell Bio), you can basically do it on anything you want at all. That may seem weird to you now, but there are weirder things to come. And I won't spoil it for you! ;) Well ofcourse you'll get the good group members and the bad ones. I initially was in a not-so-good group but I was lucky to later get the most awesome group. You will not believe how close you will become with your group. Towards the end of 2nd term our group meetings would go anywhere from 3-20 hours long. So basically you eat and live and breathe with your group ! Some groups even did sleep shifts so basically they were together 24 hours a day! I was really lucky to get an awesome group so it was all good. And yes people generally get along well within the program. And I've found the opposite, the people in Health Sci (with the exception of maybe a few) are the most humble, nicest people, not elitist at all.Everyone wants to help each other out and there's no blatant competition amongst peers :) McMaster University Bachelor of Health Sciences '15
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Aeria wrote:lesson1 wrote:can anyone already in health sci tell us about the inquiry project? my friend said it was difficult having to work with people you don't necessarily get along with, but that's life haha. do people generally get along within the program or are there cliques/ unspoken academic rivalries? i like the idea of escaping big city competition (u of t, mcgill), but now i'm a little worried about the peer dynamics at health sci. :S
also, is it true that a lot of health sci kids think they're "elitist" or something? i have a hard time believing that, 'cause you guys all sound so nice!!! :( Do you mean the first year Inquiry project? If so I can tell you about it, but if you mean the 3rd year one, I ofcourse can't tell you much about it. Basically, you will do term projects in Inquiry (so 2 in total) and about 4 group projects in Cell Biology 2nd semester and 1 TRIPSE (you'll learn what this is later) in first semester. So lots of group work. For the Inquiry projects (unlike Cell Bio), you can basically do it on anything you want at all. That may seem weird to you now, but there are weirder things to come. And I won't spoil it for you! ;) Well ofcourse you'll get the good group members and the bad ones. I initially was in a not-so-good group but I was lucky to later get the most awesome group. You will not believe how close you will become with your group. Towards the end of 2nd term our group meetings would go anywhere from 3-20 hours long. So basically you eat and live and breathe with your group ! Some groups even did sleep shifts so basically they were together 24 hours a day! I was really lucky to get an awesome group so it was all good. And yes people generally get along well within the program. And I've found the opposite, the people in Health Sci (with the exception of maybe a few) are the most humble, nicest people, not elitist at all.Everyone wants to help each other out and there's no blatant competition amongst peers :) that's a real relief to hear. :) McGill | Biological, Biomedical and Life Sciences
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thekelvster wrote:kimmmmp... How did she get rejected?! That supp app was by far the best one I have read!
This stuff is outrageous.
RachDin, yours was well beyond amazing.
anotherxnight's response was also very thought-provoking.
Why can't the admissions people see the potential that we all have. There's something more than just being good at the art of writing or, in some cases, lying or fabricating... Some of us have talents and capabilities that cannot be tested by a mere three paragraphs, hence we are applying to B.HSc and not B.English or B.Art. I felt like this just needed to be said.
And for the record, I have a 97 average, and I got rejected. I think it's safe to say that admission barely has to do with marks. D'awh! That definitely made me feel better about myself lol. But yeah, Healthsci sure is a toughy. I mean, my average wasn't the best (I applied with a 93 avg) so I'm just wondering if i lost to a tie-breaker... can you imagine that?! Either way, everyone that got accepted deserves it, because I did put forth my best at the time and couldn't quite make it. Life sciences here I come! McMaster Life Sciences - Accepted
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Those who got rejected should not feel bad at all. The people on this forum are making healthsci seem like the only program that will prepare its students for med school, but that is honestly not the case. With the way the program is designed, many students who are healthsci graduates and are currently attending medschool actually feel unprepared and ill-trained. Also, McMaster is virtually unknown in the US, so if your plan is to head south for med school, you are FAR better off going to an internationally renowned university like McGill or UofT. Ivy Leagues would much rather accept a student with a lower GPA from McGill than a student with a 4.0 from McMaster...
And anyway, there is something about McMaster that turns me off. There is a sort of exclusivity that surrounds the people in the healthsci program...perhaps it is an air of arrogance, as if getting into healthsci is a guarantee of getting into medschool. Anyway congrats on everyone who got in, I'm sure you deserved it; but to everyone who got rejected, you're seriously better off without the subjectivity.
Please don't think I'm "mad", I got in...
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rosegold wrote:Those who got rejected should not feel bad at all. The people on this forum are making healthsci seem like the only program that will prepare its students for med school, but that is honestly not the case. With the way the program is designed, many students who are healthsci graduates and are currently attending medschool actually feel unprepared and ill-trained. Also, McMaster is virtually unknown in the US, so if your plan is to head south for med school, you are FAR better off going to an internationally renowned university like McGill or UofT. Ivy Leagues would much rather accept a student with a lower GPA from McGill than a student with a 4.0 from McMaster...
And anyway, there is something about McMaster that turns me off. There is a sort of exclusivity that surrounds the people in the healthsci program...perhaps it is an air of arrogance, as if getting into healthsci is a guarantee of getting into medschool. Anyway congrats on everyone who got in, I'm sure you deserved it; but to everyone who got rejected, you're seriously better off without the subjectivity.
Please don't think I'm "mad", I got in... I take it you're not going to go? PS: Any relation between your forum name and a Laptop colour ... XDD
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LJustin wrote:rosegold wrote:Those who got rejected should not feel bad at all. The people on this forum are making healthsci seem like the only program that will prepare its students for med school, but that is honestly not the case. With the way the program is designed, many students who are healthsci graduates and are currently attending medschool actually feel unprepared and ill-trained. Also, McMaster is virtually unknown in the US, so if your plan is to head south for med school, you are FAR better off going to an internationally renowned university like McGill or UofT. Ivy Leagues would much rather accept a student with a lower GPA from McGill than a student with a 4.0 from McMaster...
And anyway, there is something about McMaster that turns me off. There is a sort of exclusivity that surrounds the people in the healthsci program...perhaps it is an air of arrogance, as if getting into healthsci is a guarantee of getting into medschool. Anyway congrats on everyone who got in, I'm sure you deserved it; but to everyone who got rejected, you're seriously better off without the subjectivity.
Please don't think I'm "mad", I got in... I take it you're not going to go? PS: Any relation between your forum name and a Laptop colour ... XDD Healthsci used to be my dream program, but when you hear about the experiences of former students, it really changes your perspective. So yes, I will not be accepting my offer haha...I just don't want people to think that getting rejected is the end of their medschool road because it is just one of the routes to getting there -not the only one. Anyway I was actually referring to my favourite Michael Kors watch, but yes the laptop is very pretty as well :)
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rosegold wrote:LJustin wrote:rosegold wrote:Those who got rejected should not feel bad at all. The people on this forum are making healthsci seem like the only program that will prepare its students for med school, but that is honestly not the case. With the way the program is designed, many students who are healthsci graduates and are currently attending medschool actually feel unprepared and ill-trained. Also, McMaster is virtually unknown in the US, so if your plan is to head south for med school, you are FAR better off going to an internationally renowned university like McGill or UofT. Ivy Leagues would much rather accept a student with a lower GPA from McGill than a student with a 4.0 from McMaster...
And anyway, there is something about McMaster that turns me off. There is a sort of exclusivity that surrounds the people in the healthsci program...perhaps it is an air of arrogance, as if getting into healthsci is a guarantee of getting into medschool. Anyway congrats on everyone who got in, I'm sure you deserved it; but to everyone who got rejected, you're seriously better off without the subjectivity.
Please don't think I'm "mad", I got in... I take it you're not going to go? PS: Any relation between your forum name and a Laptop colour ... XDD Healthsci used to be my dream program, but when you hear about the experiences of former students, it really changes your perspective. So yes, I will not be accepting my offer haha...I just don't want people to think that getting rejected is the end of their medschool road because it is just one of the routes to getting there -not the only one. Anyway I was actually referring to my favourite Michael Kors watch, but yes the laptop is very pretty as well :) Yeah, I'm not that disappointed. I'm pretty chills about all this university stuff and I knew that my chances of getting HSci were pretty slim anyway. And lol. Never heard of that watch to be completely honest. I shall go Google now :P EDIT: Dang, that's a nice looking watch :)
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Hey guys,
Just out of curiousity, what was your 4 letter word? And did you get accepted or not?
I chose hope and I got in.
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